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bluebird2 04-07-2009 03:59 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
The 12 WMU's that declined, are they similar in terms of habiat makeup?
A. If breeding rates had increased in just half of the WMUs and remained the same in the others, it would be impossible for the statewide breeding rates to decrease by 5%.ny similarity in habitat is totally irrelevant since breeding rates and productivity in all WMUs were supposed to increase due to ARs and HR.

Can you explain why breeding rates would decrease in any WMU due to HR and ARs?

Cornelius08 04-07-2009 04:05 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
The rates of decline vary. SOmedeclines were noticable, others very slight. But we should have been experiencing increases. Also considering the fact that the problem really isnt in one years data as far as the adult doe pregnancy rate, since its rate of decline is only a percent or two per year, but its the total decline and the trend. Small differences each year adding up.

Those wmus experiencing adult doe embryo declineson the07-08 report. 1A, 1B, 2A,2D,2F,3B,4A,4B,4C,4E,5C and 5D.

Id make a chart, but am feeling lazy today, and have a headachenot really inthe mood for all the typing.

bluebird2 04-07-2009 04:40 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
I have not had a chance to give the 07/08 report the time it deserves
the report has been out for many months and the fact that you haven;t taken the time to read it in full explains why you don't know what you are talking about.

bowtruck 04-07-2009 04:46 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
Even a small decline should have been looked at since they were suppose to go up not down
any decline presents a problem and possibly a major flaw in the pgc ideas

bluebird2 04-07-2009 04:53 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
Do you agree that the hunters deserve a reasonable ,rational answer as to why breeding rates declined,when they were supposed to increase?

BTBowhunter 04-07-2009 04:57 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

I have not had a chance to give the 07/08 report the time it deserves
the report has been out for many months and the fact that you haven;t taken the time to read it in full explains why you don't know what you are talking about.
Well, it's kind of obvious as to who does and doesn't want this board to remain civil.

Not that your post deserves a civil response but I'm gonna do my best. I have read through the report but not with particular scrutiny on the point that Corny brought up. I intend to look at it again in that light.

You've said you want the childish stuff to stop. Please pratice what you preach

BTBowhunter 04-07-2009 05:01 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
ORIGINAL: Cornelius08

The rates of decline vary. SOmedeclines were noticable, others very slight. But we should have been experiencing increases. Also considering the fact that the problem really isnt in one years data as far as the adult doe pregnancy rate, since its rate of decline is only a percent or two per year, but its the total decline and the trend. Small differences each year adding up.

Those wmus experiencing adult doe embryo declineson the07-08 report. 1A, 1B, 2A,2D,2F,3B,4A,4B,4C,4E,5C and 5D.

Id make a chart, but am feeling lazy today, and have a headachenot really inthe mood for all the typing.
No chart necessary.

Thanks for listing the WMU's. From the half of the state I'm familiar with, it seems that the declining WMU's are all over the charts as far as habitat type.

bowtruck 04-07-2009 05:05 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
i cant say hunters deserve a answer . It seems the pgc would be doing the right thing by giving a answer
A resonable rational answer is in the eye of the beholder some wont accept any answer and some will accept any answer

bluebird2 04-07-2009 05:11 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
If you think my post violates the term of civil discourse, then you will never be able to participate in a discussion between mature adult PA hunters. If you haven't read and digested the contents of the 2008 AWR, then you really aren't qualified to participate in this discussion.

BTBowhunter 04-07-2009 05:32 PM
RE: Pennsylvania deer kills drop
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

If you think my post violates the term of civil discourse, then you will never be able to participate in a discussion between mature adult PA hunters. If you haven't read and digested the contents of the 2008 AWR, then you really aren't qualified to participate in this discussion.
It should be obvious to anyone that your post was not meant to contribute in any way other than to try and pull this thread into the muck.

I will not respond to this type of instigation. You areby no means an indispensible part of the discussion Cornelius answered my question. I thanked him. I intend to look at the report again with further scrutiny in this area. Perhaps the best solution is to invoke the red button again..........








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