Pa Deer Harvest results released
03-29-2009, 06:25 PM
#191
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
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Year……………..Males………..Females…… …Total harvest…….…..% males
.1982…………….3.35.………….2.13.…… ………..5.48.…………..…61.1%
1983.…………….3.29.………….2.17.…… ………..5.46.……………..60.2
1984.…………….3.67.………….2.14.…… ………..5.81.……………..63.1
1985.…………….3.96.………….2.88.…… ………..6.84.……………..57.8
1986.…………….4.13.………….2.57.…… ………..6.69.……………..61.7
1987.…………….4.42.………….3.05.…… ………..7.47.……………..59.2
1988.…………….4.77.………….3.74.…… ………..8.51.……………..56.1
1989.…………….4.93.………….3.74.…… ………..8.67.……………..56.9
1990.…………….5.03.………….4.18.…… ………..9.20.……………..54.6
1991.…………….4.62.………….4.04.…… ………..8.66.……………..53.4
1992.…………….4.67.………….3.39.…… ………..8.06.……………..57.9
1993.…………….4.96.………….4.16.…… ………..9.12.……………..54.4
1994.…………….4.80.………….4.02.…… ………..8.81.……………..54.4
1995.…………….5.45.………….4.15.…… ………..9.61.……………..56.8
1996.…………….4.46.………….3.37.…… ………..7.83.……………..56.9
1997.…………….5.11.………….3.75.…… ………..8.86.……………..57.7
1998.…………….5.06.………….3.36.…… ………..8.42.……………..60.1
1999.…………….5.30.………….3.14.…… ………..8.45.……………..62.8
2000.…………….6.01.………….5.25.…… ……….11.26.…………….53.4
2001.…………….5.93.………….4.92.…… ……….10.84.…………….54.7
2002.…………….5.42.………….6.13.…… ……….11.55.…………….46.9
2003.…………….4.70.………….5.67.…… ……….10.37.…………….45.3
2004.…………….4.15.………….4.99.…… ………..9.13.……………..45.4
2005.…………….3.84.………….3.99.…… ………..7.82.……………..49.0
2006.…………….4.18.………….3.89.…… ………..8.07.……………..51.8
2007.…………….3.58.………….3.63.…… ………..7.21.……………..49.7
2008.…………….3.78.………….3.71.…… ………..7.49.……………..50.4
Year……………..Males………..Females…… …Total harvest…….…..% males
.1982…………….3.35.………….2.13.…… ………..5.48.…………..…61.1%
1983.…………….3.29.………….2.17.…… ………..5.46.……………..60.2
1984.…………….3.67.………….2.14.…… ………..5.81.……………..63.1
1985.…………….3.96.………….2.88.…… ………..6.84.……………..57.8
1986.…………….4.13.………….2.57.…… ………..6.69.……………..61.7
1987.…………….4.42.………….3.05.…… ………..7.47.……………..59.2
1988.…………….4.77.………….3.74.…… ………..8.51.……………..56.1
1989.…………….4.93.………….3.74.…… ………..8.67.……………..56.9
1990.…………….5.03.………….4.18.…… ………..9.20.……………..54.6
1991.…………….4.62.………….4.04.…… ………..8.66.……………..53.4
1992.…………….4.67.………….3.39.…… ………..8.06.……………..57.9
1993.…………….4.96.………….4.16.…… ………..9.12.……………..54.4
1994.…………….4.80.………….4.02.…… ………..8.81.……………..54.4
1995.…………….5.45.………….4.15.…… ………..9.61.……………..56.8
1996.…………….4.46.………….3.37.…… ………..7.83.……………..56.9
1997.…………….5.11.………….3.75.…… ………..8.86.……………..57.7
1998.…………….5.06.………….3.36.…… ………..8.42.……………..60.1
1999.…………….5.30.………….3.14.…… ………..8.45.……………..62.8
2000.…………….6.01.………….5.25.…… ……….11.26.…………….53.4
2001.…………….5.93.………….4.92.…… ……….10.84.…………….54.7
2002.…………….5.42.………….6.13.…… ……….11.55.…………….46.9
2003.…………….4.70.………….5.67.…… ……….10.37.…………….45.3
2004.…………….4.15.………….4.99.…… ………..9.13.……………..45.4
2005.…………….3.84.………….3.99.…… ………..7.82.……………..49.0
2006.…………….4.18.………….3.89.…… ………..8.07.……………..51.8
2007.…………….3.58.………….3.63.…… ………..7.21.……………..49.7
2008.…………….3.78.………….3.71.…… ………..7.49.……………..50.4
I guess my point isthat everyone should consider the actual percentages less(I believe it can be misleading) and consider what the actual numbers represent.I just think that using percentages when dealing with the smaller numbers distorts the actual story. Just throwing in my 0.02 dollars.
03-30-2009, 04:18 AM
#192
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
When you calculate the actual percentage decrease, yes it equals 42% but isn't it possible that this 42% decrease (approx. 1.6 buck) could be a result of hunters actually choosing to pass on a smaller buck or even more plausable that these 1.6 bucks were not legal, therefore not shot?
03-30-2009, 04:27 AM
#193
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
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But after passing on the non-AR legal 1.5 buck, shouldn't those hunters have harvested a 2.5 buck that was saved by ARs the previous year?
When you calculate the actual percentage decrease, yes it equals 42% but isn't it possible that this42% decrease (approx. 1.6 buck) could be a result ofhunters actually choosing to pass on a smaller buck or even more plausable that these 1.6 bucks were not legal, therefore not shot?
I know this may come as a shock, but maybe they didn't see one, or they were holding out for 3.5/older, which, by the way, does not equate to them not being there.
03-30-2009, 05:29 AM
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
crokit yeh im sure thats the reason. very few PA. hunters hold out for a 3.5 year old or older buck (though I have done so since I was 18) I have been hunting sheds since I was 16, over the last 5 years i am finding less 2.5 year old sheds and alot less 3.5 year old and older sheds than I did prior to AR. & HR. Pike
03-30-2009, 05:36 AM
#195
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
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crokit yeh im sure thats the reason. very few PA. hunters hold out for a 3.5 year old or older buck (though I have done so since I was 18) I have been hunting sheds since I was 16, over the last 5 years i am finding less 2.5 year old sheds and alot less 3.5 year old and older sheds than I did prior to AR. & HR. Pike
crokit yeh im sure thats the reason. very few PA. hunters hold out for a 3.5 year old or older buck (though I have done so since I was 18) I have been hunting sheds since I was 16, over the last 5 years i am finding less 2.5 year old sheds and alot less 3.5 year old and older sheds than I did prior to AR. & HR. Pike
03-30-2009, 06:25 AM
#197
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
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But Alt said that ARs would double the number of 2.5+ buck and double the number of 8 pts.!!
But Alt said that ARs would double the number of 2.5+ buck and double the number of 8 pts.!!
We all know Alt overstated things while sellingthe plan. He's gone. Move on instead of exaggerating it and making yourself a liar once again
03-30-2009, 06:48 AM
#198
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
BTB, bb's response to bawana jim is word for word for how I would have responded!! Regardless of whether or not ALT is gone the plan he sold was not his it was the PGC.'s. The plan was based on lie's, sold on lie's and still to this day is nothing but lie's.
Bawana, I read your post were you said that you saw 61 deer on your property and I doubt you seen them all, (nothing wrong with that if you were against the PGC.'s plan) But how can you support the PGC. up and down and not try to support the PGC in their managment efforts by doing all you can do to reduce your deer to 5-10 deer per square mile? Nothing worse than a hypocrit. Pike
Bawana, I read your post were you said that you saw 61 deer on your property and I doubt you seen them all, (nothing wrong with that if you were against the PGC.'s plan) But how can you support the PGC. up and down and not try to support the PGC in their managment efforts by doing all you can do to reduce your deer to 5-10 deer per square mile? Nothing worse than a hypocrit. Pike
03-30-2009, 06:54 AM
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
BTB on your property in IL. im sure you practice QDM., what is your target goal for deer per square mile? what is the ILDNR's target goal for your area of IL? Do you realize that the MI. DNR manages its herd at 28.9 deer per square mile? Do you also realize that the ODNR manages its herd at 25 deer per square mile? ( which by the way is one of the healthiest herds in the counrty) Pike
03-30-2009, 07:16 AM
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RE: Pa Deer Harvest results released
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BTB on your property in IL. im sure you practice QDM., what is your target goal for deer per square mile? what is the ILDNR's target goal for your area of IL? Do you realize that the MI. DNR manages its herd at 28.9 deer per square mile? Do you also realize that the ODNR manages its herd at 25 deer per square mile? ( which by the way is one of the healthiest herds in the counrty) Pike
BTB on your property in IL. im sure you practice QDM., what is your target goal for deer per square mile? what is the ILDNR's target goal for your area of IL? Do you realize that the MI. DNR manages its herd at 28.9 deer per square mile? Do you also realize that the ODNR manages its herd at 25 deer per square mile? ( which by the way is one of the healthiest herds in the counrty) Pike
Ill and Ohio are not at all like PA. We don't have anywhere near the agriculture and edge that they do. Any comparison just isn't very meaningful IMHO
Normally I would elaborate more but I have to be cutting this short, gotta go. The bride has stuff for me to do
