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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: bluebird2 The Bluebird is a colorful yet quite fellow, |
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
I would certainly like the PGC to atleast CONSIDER making a change similar to TX. Allow harvest of spikes, while incorporating a general spread restriction. Try it for about five years and then evaluate. i just feel that if you are trying to create ahigher quality herd, you have got to consider all options and be willing to try some other methods, esp when SOME research ahs proven point based systems to be less effective. PA chose the point based system due to it simplicity alone, despite the fact that other states that had tried them werer already abandoning the practice due to poor results. The TX system has a very easy to comprehend visual guide. Hunters in PA would catch on quickly. Whether it would fly politically and socially remains to be seen. BTW, SS I think you mixed up some quotes in that post where I got this from;) |
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter I would certainly like the PGC to atleast CONSIDER making a change similar to TX. Allow harvest of spikes, while incorporating a general spread restriction. Try it for about five years and then evaluate. i just feel that if you are trying to create ahigher quality herd, you have got to consider all options and be willing to try some other methods, esp when SOME research ahs proven point based systems to be less effective. PA chose the point based system due to it simplicity alone, despite the fact that other states that had tried them werer already abandoning the practice due to poor results. The TX system has a very easy to comprehend visual guide. Hunters in PA would catch on quickly. Whether it would fly politically and socially remains to be seen. BTW, SS I think you mixed up some quotes in that post where I got this from;) |
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
Just going with my gut instincts, the Texas idea sounds pretty good.
I think you're right. We are pretty much on the same page when it comes to AR. I have always beieved we could make it better than we did it from day one but I think that the way we started was the only way it would have ever flew here. Now that the positive results and acceptance (for AR) seems to be pretty widespread, it probably is time to expand upon what we have.I tend to think that the BOC isn't going to do much though till HR is truly stabilized and the lawsuit is over. |
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
Apparently you are forgetting that the TX plan allows for the harvest of 2 buck /hunter . Due the number of hunters in PA and the effects of HR, the PGC can not allow 2 buck /year so IMHO the TX plan will not work in PA.
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
I tend to think that the BOC isn't going to do much though till HR is truly stabilized and the lawsuit is over. I would be optimistic, if I didnt know better, that changes would be made thanks to an influx of fresh ideas with 3 boc seats to be filled soon. Unfortunately, odd are, the fillers of those seats will be hand picked to "stay the exact course" of the last several years. Not saying there arent some reasonable thoughts being kicked around here. As far as "stabilization", first they are going to need to TRULY end hr in some of the areas of CLAIMED stabilization. Again, depending on who ends up as our new commissioners, that has little chance of happening imho. Many areas would benefit from herd INCREASE, at least somewhat to make up for all thereduction that has occurred SINCE the time we've supposedly been "stabilizing" the last few years. |
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: bluebird2 Apparently you are forgetting that the TX plan allows for the harvest of 2 buck /hunter . Due the number of hunters in PA and the effects of HR, the PGC can not allow 2 buck /year so IMHO the TX plan will not work in PA. |
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: Cornelius08 I tend to think that the BOC isn't going to do much though till HR is truly stabilized and the lawsuit is over. I would be optimistic, if I didnt know better, that changes would be made thanks to an influx of fresh ideas with 3 boc seats to be filled soon. Unfortunately, odd are, the fillers of those seats will be hand picked to "stay the exact course" of the last several years. Not saying there arent some reasonable thoughts being kicked around here. As far as "stabilization", first they are going to need to TRULY end hr in some of the areas of CLAIMED stabilization. Again, depending on who ends up as our new commissioners, that has little chance of happening imho. Many areas would benefit from herd INCREASE, at least somewhat to make up for all thereduction that has occurred SINCE the time we've supposedly been "stabilizing" the last few years. |
RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
Most of them. Urban areas being the possible exception......
Mostareas have been proven to be able to support more than currently, and some areas MANY more, soa few more here and there wouldnt hurt a thing,and we'd still be under max cc. Id say straight from go, 10% possibly 20 in some areasincrease throughout most wmuswould be a more than reasonable goal for starters. The ideal, of course, wouldinclude the use of smaller wmus and really tailoring the allocation to the areas. Doesnt really matter though, as NEITHER is likely to occur. |
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