Pa Antler Restrictions
01-16-2009, 08:15 AM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: elmira ny
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RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
In 2002 we harvested 52K 2.5+ buck before any bucks were saved by ARs ,but after 6 years of ARs we harvested 48K 2.5 buck. prior to ARs hunter didn't lay off of little buck but we harvested more 2.5+ buck in 2002 than we did in 2007. so what is your point?
In 2002 we harvested 52K 2.5+ buck before any bucks were saved by ARs ,but after 6 years of ARs we harvested 48K 2.5 buck. prior to ARs hunter didn't lay off of little buck but we harvested more 2.5+ buck in 2002 than we did in 2007. so what is your point?
Fewer hunters, much fewer hunters
01-16-2009, 08:21 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
Well, so far it looks like about 3 to 1 in favor of AR's in some form.
Whats really interesting is that almost half of AR supporters would like to see them go a step further.
Well, so far it looks like about 3 to 1 in favor of AR's in some form.
Whats really interesting is that almost half of AR supporters would like to see them go a step further.
01-16-2009, 08:25 AM
#23
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RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
The lessened harvest wasnt due to lower hunter numbers. The success rate percentage also fell. From around 20% down to about 12. If less hunters harvested less buck proportionately, the number of bucks carried over should have risen and the success rate would have risen, not declined.
There are still more than enough hunters to kill the huge lion share of our legal bucks.
There are still more than enough hunters to kill the huge lion share of our legal bucks.
01-16-2009, 11:45 AM
#24
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
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RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
I am not at all surprised at that since AR supporters have demonstrated they know very little about the negative effects of ARs and don't understand the basic principles of deer management.
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
Well, so far it looks like about 3 to 1 in favor of AR's in some form.
Whats really interesting is that almost half of AR supporters would like to see them go a step further.
Well, so far it looks like about 3 to 1 in favor of AR's in some form.
Whats really interesting is that almost half of AR supporters would like to see them go a step further.
only change i would like to see is it should be AR for all of us as too much illegal things are happening.
01-17-2009, 04:19 AM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,879
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
This is what George Block had to say about the recent scoring session.
Could it that the rack sizes of 2.5+ buck are decreasing instead of increasing?
Overall numbers are down to less than half of what was scored in 2000 and average scores have dropped just shy of 10 inches.
01-17-2009, 04:53 AM
#27
Giant Nontypical
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Location: SW PA USA
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RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
This is what George Block had to say about the recent scoring session.
Could it that the rack sizes of 2.5+ buck are decreasing instead of increasing?
This is what George Block had to say about the recent scoring session.
Overall numbers are down to less than half of what was scored in 2000 and average scores have dropped just shy of 10 inches.
The fact is there is no evidence that average antler sizeshave changed atall within any age class. We merely have a higher percentage of 2.5 and older bucks making up the herd and the harvest.
01-17-2009, 05:29 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
The fact is there is no evidence that average antler sizes have changed at all within any age class.
01-17-2009, 05:42 AM
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 240
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
Spread is a bad deal for seveal reasons. First and formost if a guy shot a buck that was under the determined "legal" limit he is likely to let it lay and continue to hunt. 2nd you could have a buck that scores in the 130" that has a relativly small spread. Keep the current AR's that are in place now cause they work and limit the DOE KILL