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RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
ORIGINAL: Screamin Steel The fishers are part of the PGC's new FR (flock reduction) program. The turkeys are outcompeting all other bird species, so a 50% reduction is being pushed for by the Audubon and the tree huggers. Top it off with the new spur restictions, and we have a mirror image of the phenomenally successful deer program. Bonus hen tags in the spring and 1 1/4" minimum spur length should quickly and dramatically reduce the flock and provide the privileged few with a chance at a real trophy tom. Apparently fishers are very capable turkey killers, known to prey onadults as well as juvenilles, and are notorious nest raiders as well. Just what the PGC ordered. Should accomplish in quick order what the coyotes have already been doing to the turkeys and what they have done with the deer fawns as well. dcnr HATES a porcupine or possum. everytime PENN STATE gets involved, you can bet its backed by the DCNR. fishers are killers,they will kill chickens in pens ,so will weasel. i am disturbed at all predators that are now in pa in large numbers . fox,coyote,cougar:Dhawks,owls,bobcats,fishers,eagl e. they all have eat and boy do they. you should see eagles at bush dam dive down and bring up a 28 inch ,8 lb gold palomino trout.[:@] i see this every year in kettle creek stream/dam. we need season like bobcat/coyote/fox .for others. we need a fisher season,OWL season,never get a eagle season,PETA would jump all over me on that one. no doubt the PETA birdwatchers are taking over our great state of pa.hey, they are moving into your sportsmans clubs too in GREAT NUMBERS. you should see how they look at you when you have gun in your hands,tell them you are DEER hunting and they are happy with you,tell them you are BIRD HUNTING, and the looks they give you will make you sick.:) pgc commissioners are example on that.they want deer dead but dont touch a OWL that is cleaning over 28 rabbits a winter in my home area.[:@] |
RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
Owls generally kill what’s easiest to catch or find. As with most predators, they are blamed for killing more game and poultry than they actually do. In reality, they are beneficial birds that prey on many pest species. Mice and rats form a major part of the larger owls’ diets; smaller owls eat small mammals and insects. All Pennsylvania owls are protected by the Game Law and federal regulations.
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RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J Owls generally kill what’s easiest to catch or find. As with most predators, they are blamed for killing more game and poultry than they actually do. In reality, they are beneficial birds that prey on many pest species. Mice and rats form a major part of the larger owls’ diets; smaller owls eat small mammals and insects. All Pennsylvania owls are protected by the Game Law and federal regulations. at least you dont lose it and get as mad as me .[:@] when you take your dog for walk and see 28 dead rabbits last winter,i kept log on dates i found the rabbits. i have 8 owls around my home.OWLS will kill grouse too,i find them dead to,same thing, guts pulled out of them. in feb they must MATE. they hoot steady for 3 days, HOOT, HOOT, HOOTTTTTTTTTTT,all night getting ready to make more rabbit killers. hey, i like birds but when you see guts ripped out of rabbit, heck, my sister is a P.E.T.A member and she flips out when she sees that. i tell her, you happy with your OWLS and hawks now. she says,SPROUL YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, THOSE RABBITS JUST DIED AND CAT ATE GUTS.  OH MY.  |
RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J Owls generally kill what’s easiest to catch or find. As with most predators, they are blamed for killing more game and poultry than they actually do. In reality, they are beneficial birds that prey on many pest species. Mice and rats form a major part of the larger owls’ diets; smaller owls eat small mammals and insects. All Pennsylvania owls are protected by the Game Law and federal regulations. |
RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J Owls generally kill what’s easiest to catch or find. As with most predators, they are blamed for killing more game and poultry than they actually do. In reality, they are beneficial birds that prey on many pest species. Mice and rats form a major part of the larger owls’ diets; smaller owls eat small mammals and insects. All Pennsylvania owls are protected by the Game Law and federal regulations. but when you have too many in one area, its not good. what is happening, there is no food in woods in winter,snow on ground. a OWL will eat mice/moles young rabbits and grouse in summer BUTWHEN WINTER COMES GUESS WHERE THEY HEAD. RIGHT TO MY YARD.i have rabbits i try to keep alive,they sit on telephone poles at 2 am ,hoot, hoot , hoot ,then down on rabbit. if there was food in woods, i would have no problem with OWL to much but when ALL our game is way down these OWLS can do job on what game is left . same with fawns, i have fawns on my property but i saw NONE in woods this year,not 1. predators are one nasty mother when game is so scare.[:@] |
RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
please explain how breeding rates are detrimed, i have read all 7 pages of this to catch up on whats happening but i don't understand how the breeding rates are figured out. WCO's check road killed does prior to the fawning season and determine if the doe was bred, how many embryos she is carrying and the approximate she was bred. They also check road killed does during and after the fawning period to determine if the doe was lactating. |
RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
Even though the breeding and reproductive rates have increase in the traditionally poor area it still wasn’t enough to compensate for the near total collapse of the data coming from old high breeding and reproductive rates areas. To help me prove that logic doesn’t work with some people, how about you explaining to everyone why having more a better buck/doe ratio would result in declining breeding rates or how fewer deer and more food per deer would result in declining reproductive or breeding rates. Just explain to everyone how a person capable of logical thoughts would explain the declining breeding and reproductive rates you want to believe has occurred, if it really were anything other then a change in the sample sizes. |
RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
ORIGINAL: bluebird2 WCO's check road killed does prior to the fawning season and determine if the doe was bred, how many embryos she is carrying and the approximate she was bred. They also check road killed does during and after the fawning period to determine if the doe was lactating. |
RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
All WCO's receive the necessary training and it isn't all that complicated. As i understand it all they have to do is locate the embryos and measure their stage of development based on established standards.
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RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
that may explain some results if a wco gets in hurry or has a bad day or just wants results to look
diffrent not trying to p in any wco`s cheerios |
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