RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

Are you a moderator or a wannabe?

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

just stating the facts blueballs

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How would you like it if I left out the T and R in your screen name and substituted an F. Do you think that would be acceptable?

Would that be a play on words or something a little more serious.

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Why not try it and see?

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wouldnt bother me blueballs just do it

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i have no need to stoop to such low life tactics to defend my position. But , that's all AR supporters and PGC supporters have on their side,so have at it.

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not really a pgc supporter wrong again blueballs

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I have been baiting many times in the past,so a few blueballs won't inspire a response that will get me banned. Try a little harder next time.

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cant blame a guy for trying i guess

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Sure I can junior cheap shot wannabe.

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bb thought you didnt stoop to low life tactics atleast thats what you said
anyways since your not debaiting topic i might as go do something useful

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

i said I didn't have to stoop to such low life tactics to defend my positions on the issues. in my last post i wasn't defending my positions i was simply putting you in your place at the bottom of the feeding chain along with BTB.

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and on and on and on he goes..........

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givin the 2 to choose from i would rather stand beside btb than you
at either end of the feeding chain

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And as usual you contribute nothing of value!!!

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I am not here to make enemies.Disagreements are bound to occur.For me it is a matter of conduct.To site a Newsweek article that is completely absurd.(I have read it) It was not factually supported at all.To use this as a basis of fact undermines any credibility an author may have in my mind.The vast majority of deer or elk killed in any hunted populationare not mature males,you can goback for decades and this will continue to be the case.The premise of the article was not even close to being the case.
It goes without saying that if there are more adult males in a population as a result of management practices more will be shot but that doesn't mean that the health or viability of the remainder of poulation will be negatively effected.If you were to use the premise of the article or the premise of your position the reverse would be true more older age class males would be doing the breeding because there would be many more of them.The genetic inferiority position is without merit because it discounts the role of the female (doe) in the equation and it is simply not true as it relates to the male,if they were a late born fawn then it is just a matter of them catching up.They are not genetically inferior and there hae been many studies to support that.Kroll,Ozaga,Larue,Koerth,Alsheimer,all have written extensively regarding this.
It appears to me that you are intenton your opinion and could care less about any information that is provided to refute the stance you have taken.
I am always receptive to a change of my views if credible information is provided.You havn't done that.
I did not single you out personally you have done that to me.I am sure you can imagine how much your opinion of me matters to me!If you guessed it doesn't at all you would be right! I would be more concerned if I was your kind of person!

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The genetic inferiority position does not discount the contribution of the female. When inferior bucks breed a significant percentage of the does they sire both female and male fawns and therefore negatively influence the genetics of both males and females..

There is no study that proves spikes are not inferior. Krolll's study confirms the fact that spikes are inferior for the rate of antler development and it is not due to being late born. If it was that simple they would catch up as 2.5 buck , but they don't It takes two more years and that is not due to being born a month or two later than average. Kroll could not explain why spikes were inferior for the rate of antler development,which means he was dodging the issue of genetic inferiority.

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Why are wekilling another thread with this B.S. The was about fisher reintroduction and a chance for education. But as always, its all about the deer.

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This quote is from the original post that started the thread.


That opened the discussion to subjects related to deer management since we reduced the herd to insure adequate regeneration of commercially valuable trees.

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I know your passionate about deer management and what you believe to be true, even kind of admire your tenacity in the face of strong opposition, I just hate every post turning into ar/hr/hs

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

Thanks and I understand your position. I does get rather repetitive but how much can you say about reintroducing fishers?

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Howmany threads can you hijack and regurge the same twisted and distorted arguments?

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When on you going provide some evidence to support your opinion of my posts?

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Blah Blah............Blah......Blah

Blah...........Blah.....Blah..........

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

So what do you think nature did to me?

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Your posts are nothing more than your own opinions so the opinion of your posts expressed by others need no evidence.
When you post facts provided by profesional wildlife managers and then tell us that the conclusions drawn by those experts are biased or that they didn't understand the data, that is your opinion and nothing more.

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It sure didn't give you any predatory skills:D

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

2things.;)

Nature made the Blue bird .....well,2 blue.

The deers eyesight keeps him from seeing histrue colors.

And I've never seen one smile.[:-]

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

You are simply wrong!There a number of studies that have demonstrated that spikes are not inferior and that with time they can realize the same physical and antler potential of young bucks who have branch antlers or small basket racks.For me this pissing match is over.
I apologize to the gentleman who initiated the Fisher thread.As a point of information I have seen two fisher's in the last three years in the catskill mountains of New York state.In 25 plus years in our woods and mountains I had never seen any previously.

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That is just more nonsense from someone that can't hold their own in a discussion.

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Studies and science mean nothing to the Bluebird. He either dismisses them, reinvents the results or declares them to be biased.

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That is not what the studies showed. It showed that some spikes will equal branched antlerled bucks at 4.5 years. It did not show that all spikes are equal to 1.5 6 pts. or 8pts. for the rate of antler development.

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not all 4 points would be equil 8 next yr either
not all 6 points would be 8 or 10`s next yr
so whats your point on spikes bb that they all should be killed?

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

So are you saying all those bucks are inferior?

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no i am saying buck all dont grow antlers the same plus you have to add in food,water
weather conditions. the whole package

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

I sure am glad you agree that spikes are inferior for the rate of antler development . If you want to add y bucks and 6 pts. that's your choice.

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

oh i see we are playing twister

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Then stop trying to twist the results of the studies.

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

bb right leg on blue then maybe put your right hand back to the
reintoducing of fishers topic

RE: Why is the PGC reintroducing Fishers?
 

Is that a riddle? I don't play riddles so go play with your self!