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How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
Lets say I wanted to bait the hell out of my property. How far would I have to be or my neighbors from that area to be legal to hunt again? Yards,acres miles? How does the PGC decide how far away one can hunt from a bait sight? This could really upset some people i am sure.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
The law is ambigous on this point. It defines a baited area not by distance from the bait but by whether it affects game patterns.
I understand why the PGC would want that wording as it gives the WCO all the latitude he wants but it can put unwitting hunters into a bad situation and therefore provides potential for abuse by overzealous PGC personnel. ( I don't mean to imply that all or any significant numbers of our regular WCO's would abuse this part of the law but I've met a few deputies that certainly would be likely to) |
RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
I don't think they are allowed to make up laws as they go along. I think it should be a distance from the bait pile. Like you said some could be !@#$$% about it. If deer are allready comming thru that area then how would it affect the deer on that route. I see baiting no different than lure and scent other than the lure and scent does a better job during our hunt season than food does. Atleast for bucks.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
When I watched the winter meetings last year,the local state representative for White Oak,Pa in Allegheny County(I can't remember his name) brought up this scenario concerning baiting.He said : I live in an area with a neighbor on each side of me.The deer normally hang out on the property on my left,but in the fall the neighbor has a yard full of apple trees so every evening they deer from neighbor left now travel thru my property to neighbor right to eat the apples.According the the PGC,if I now kill a deer on my property while he is going to eat the apples,WHETHER I KNOW THAT IS WHY HE IS GOING THRU MY PROPERTY OR NOT,that is considered baiting.The Pgc commissioner confirmed that yes they would consider baiting even though he did not put out the food or knew that's why the deer were going there.If that ain't ******up,nothing is.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
ORIGINAL: fellas2 When I watched the winter meetings last year,the local state representative for White Oak,Pa in Allegheny County(I can't remember his name) brought up this scenario concerning baiting.He said : I live in an area with a neighbor on each side of me.The deer normally hang out on the property on my left,but in the fall the neighbor has a yard full of apple trees so every evening they deer from neighbor left now travel thru my property to neighbor right to eat the apples.According the the PGC,if I now kill a deer on my property while he is going to eat the apples,WHETHER I KNOW THAT IS WHY HE IS GOING THRU MY PROPERTY OR NOT,that is considered baiting.The Pgc commissioner confirmed that yes they would consider baiting even though he did not put out the food or knew that's why the deer were going there.If that ain't ******up,nothing is. |
RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
This yesr is the first year they set a distance. It is 1/4 mile radius from any bait. If a area is baited and the PGC knows it they in the past haveposted the land as baited area. That should keep the people out
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
There is no set distance period.If the WCO can make a case that you took advantage of the bait,you can get busted.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
There is no set distance. It all about the terrain, If you have a question call and ask your local WCO to look at the site.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
A club in the Poconos wanted to continue feeding during hunting season and agreed to restrict hunting within 150 yds of the feeder which is within 10 yds of the clubhouse. The WCO told them if they continued to feed the deer he would close the club to hunting for the season.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
So,you are allowed to put feed out for deer as long as your not hunting that area? I am surprised ole sproulman hasn't done this to the border of his property to keep people from killing the deer. But it is legal to do though correct?
There is a place in syksville where this guy feeds wild turkeys everyday. You can drive by and see them in his back yard. Every day they are there feeding.I seen him feeding them. Big huge turkeys they are to. I guess he has been feeding them for a while now. |
RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
I read on the PGC site that some guy was fined 350$ for baiting the hell out of an area. I think it was like off the road and you could see it plain as day. The guy was in camo also and in a tree stand. I don't think he lost his license. Just got a fine for hunting over bait and no orange on. He really didn't know he wasn't allowed to hunt over bait.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
Seems he didn't know much. And I don't where you can rifle hunt without orange. Seems more likely he knew and that's why he was not wearing orange.
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RE: How far from bait is one allowed to hunt?
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Wearing orange
This law about orange is kinda wierd. You can build or be in a blind dressed in orange and still not be seen. But you get fined if your in a treestand without orange on. First day buck. In 2G. My friends nephew pulled up to shoot a 6 point and KABOOM he said and the deer fell over. He looked around and didn't see anyone. Some idiot was sitting within 20yrds of him in full cama and no orange at all. This is very true and it did happen. I told him he should of got his license number and name and turned his arse in. Scared the hell out of him he said also. Then the same day we hunted another area and my friend seen something dark gray about 50 yrds away as we approached a clearing he started raise his rifle,Just then the idiot turned and all he had was a small strip of orange on across his chest that my friend seen. No orange hat at all. There are some real idiots out there who want to get shot. These 2 incidents on the first day.
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RE: Wearing orange
ORIGINAL: sammy_tat This law about orange is kinda wierd. You can build or be in a blind dressed in orange and still not be seen. But you get fined if your in a treestand without orange on. First day buck. In 2G. My friends nephew pulled up to shoot a 6 point and KABOOM he said and the deer fell over. He looked around and didn't see anyone. Some idiot was sitting within 20yrds of him in full cama and no orange at all. This is very true and it did happen. I told him he should of got his license number and name and turned his arse in. Scared the hell out of him he said also. Then the same day we hunted another area and my friend seen something dark gray about 50 yrds away as we approached a clearing he started raise his rifle,Just then the idiot turned and all he had was a small strip of orange on across his chest that my friend seen. No orange hat at all. There are some real idiots out there who want to get shot. These 2 incidents on the first day. |
RE: Wearing orange
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter ORIGINAL: sammy_tat This law about orange is kinda wierd. You can build or be in a blind dressed in orange and still not be seen. But you get fined if your in a treestand without orange on. First day buck. In 2G. My friends nephew pulled up to shoot a 6 point and KABOOM he said and the deer fell over. He looked around and didn't see anyone. Some idiot was sitting within 20yrds of him in full cama and no orange at all. This is very true and it did happen. I told him he should of got his license number and name and turned his arse in. Scared the hell out of him he said also. Then the same day we hunted another area and my friend seen something dark gray about 50 yrds away as we approached a clearing he started raise his rifle,Just then the idiot turned and all he had was a small strip of orange on across his chest that my friend seen. No orange hat at all. There are some real idiots out there who want to get shot. These 2 incidents on the first day. I bet you don't wing shoot either then,and those guys are idiots because they are ready for a bird to flush and pepper it in a heart beat when they know it's a legal bird?Yep,lots of idiots out there who are hunting all wrong and unsafe. |
RE: Wearing orange
ORIGINAL: sammy_tat ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter ORIGINAL: sammy_tat This law about orange is kinda wierd. You can build or be in a blind dressed in orange and still not be seen. But you get fined if your in a treestand without orange on. First day buck. In 2G. My friends nephew pulled up to shoot a 6 point and KABOOM he said and the deer fell over. He looked around and didn't see anyone. Some idiot was sitting within 20yrds of him in full cama and no orange at all. This is very true and it did happen. I told him he should of got his license number and name and turned his arse in. Scared the hell out of him he said also. Then the same day we hunted another area and my friend seen something dark gray about 50 yrds away as we approached a clearing he started raise his rifle,Just then the idiot turned and all he had was a small strip of orange on across his chest that my friend seen. No orange hat at all. There are some real idiots out there who want to get shot. These 2 incidents on the first day. |
RE: Wearing orange
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter ORIGINAL: sammy_tat ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter ORIGINAL: sammy_tat This law about orange is kinda wierd. You can build or be in a blind dressed in orange and still not be seen. But you get fined if your in a treestand without orange on. First day buck. In 2G. My friends nephew pulled up to shoot a 6 point and KABOOM he said and the deer fell over. He looked around and didn't see anyone. Some idiot was sitting within 20yrds of him in full cama and no orange at all. This is very true and it did happen. I told him he should of got his license number and name and turned his arse in. Scared the hell out of him he said also. Then the same day we hunted another area and my friend seen something dark gray about 50 yrds away as we approached a clearing he started raise his rifle,Just then the idiot turned and all he had was a small strip of orange on across his chest that my friend seen. No orange hat at all. There are some real idiots out there who want to get shot. These 2 incidents on the first day. I bet you don't wing shoot either then,and those guys are idiots because they are ready for a bird to flush and pepper it in a heart beat when they know it's a legal bird?Yep,lots of idiots out there who are hunting all wrong and unsafe. |
RE: Wearing orange
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RE: Wearing orange
port arms When I hear somebody raised their gun, I picture a firearm being sighted at it's target. He probably meant that his friend unshouldered his weapon at port arms, but said the wrong term. At anyrate you are correct, Bob. What the man said would be the same as scoping out an unidentified object, which I hope he didn't really mean to say. Bird shooters carry their arms at the ready, but none I know of carry a raised gun around without a target in the air. I think he just used the wrong term...I hope.:eek: |
RE: Wearing orange
ORIGINAL: livbucks port arms When I hear somebody raised their gun, I picture a firearm being sighted at it's target. He probably meant that his friend unshouldered his weapon at port arms, but said the wrong term. At anyrate you are correct, Bob. What the man said would be the same as scoping out an unidentified object, which I hope he didn't really mean to say. Bird shooters carry their arms at the ready, but none I know of carry a raised gun around without a target in the air. I think he just used the wrong term...I hope.:eek: Sammy, If your freind had the gun at port arms, that is acceptable but if he shouldered it before knowing what was in front of him that is not acceptable ever. |
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