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ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

4evrhtn

I did not mean to imply in any way that you placed that track there!

I merely made an observation that it looked to be too perfect. I still say that. I had no idea of the circumstances surrounding that track. Who photgraphed it? Did you see it in person? Was the PGC or some other organization or experts called in todocument it?

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ORIGINAL: 4evrhtn

I was the one who took the pic using my cell phone. I was hunting with another guy and he can verify the location of and the validty of it.I can send you his phone number in a PM if that would help.I sent the pics to my brother who has 2 friends in the PAGC central office at Elmerton Drive.They told him they were going to have their bioligists look at it. So far, no word from them. As far as trying to document it by an outside source there was no way for me to do it. We walked down the road leading from a corn field where the farmer had his harvester. After we crossed the creek the farmer came out across the field on his tractor and drove across the creek and up that road. The tracks were probably covered at that point, if I had been there any later than I was I would not have had a chance to see it. I have never seen a print nor a mtn lion in the wild for that matter. It amazes me, the print is too good? If it was a poor print everyone would claim it isn't a cougar. No winning with this group. And to be honest I don't care. Everyone wanted some sort of proof, I provided what I found and now the forensic experts claim there are finger prints and question the weight of a cat in comparison to a tractor. With that logic I guess my shorthair weighs more than my Tundra because you can see clear prints from his paws in the mud I have driven through with my truck. Really... WTF?? But then again I consider source of that implication. Believe it or not, doesn't matter to me, I know what I saw and I have the pics. For everyone's info... my next project is to fake Bigfoots prints and post them here:eek:. Just a head's up of what's coming....:D

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ORIGINAL: sammy_tat

Look at the 2 pictures. Compare them and look at the track inprint without the shell and then look at the one with the shell. See any disturbance in the area between them 2 pictures.

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Amazing! Don't waste your time debating with him, it's no use.

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ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

4evr, you say you came upon the track yourself. I asked that specifically because we get so many stories that are second, third, fourth,.... twenty seventh hand accounts of "the facts". You've never given any of us a reason to think you would lie on here that I've seen so my interest just went up a notch or two. It's a shame theprint got destroyed before you could document it. The problem is that we've still not been able to get confirmation even when credible people see or believe they saw something.

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Depending on the conditions it may compact it very little. As the soil dries there will be more compaction.

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You have been on here long enough to know Bluebird is an expert at everything

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ORIGINAL: mlo31351270

Yeah, Ijust found out he is a soil compaction expert. I usually try not to post much when he is involved in a conversation.

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ORIGINAL: livbucks

His real name is CLIFF CLAVEN. He was wrong anyway. Soil does not become more dense as it dries. It becomes more solid, not more dense. There is less mass density when the moisture content is removed. We learned all this in like 8th Grade. What weighs more BB2....a ton of feathers or a ton of lead?

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Such as sedimentary rock compressed over eons.

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ORIGINAL: bluebird2

Is that the problem with your thought process?
[quoteTake a ball of clay and weigh it. Put it in the oven to dry and then weigh it. Which one has more mass weight?

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Which one has the most volume? Density is a measure of weight verses volume. You really don;'t have a clue!

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The hydrated one has more volume as well. The ball of clay would shrink like your theories on wildlife management.

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Nighty...

(Stay away from the nighty or you'll be too tired in the AM.;))

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ORIGINAL: 4evrhtn

I wish I could have been able to get someone else out there to check it out. I wonder what type of response time I would have gotten had I called the PAGC and asked to have a warden or someone come out and look into a MTN LION track. I'd probably still be waiting, I can never get anyone to answer the phone when I have called the PAGC.

I will be going back there this upcoming weekend and I am going to scout the area around the creek and areas where there might be undisturbed tracks. If I find one and can document it, I will try to cover it with a milk crate or something to preserve it. I know it is unlikely I will find more tracks but I will try. Maybe take the video camera.

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ORIGINAL: livbucks

Somebody musta declawed that dog then.

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