Mountain lions in PA!
#381
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
chicago cougar, yes there were 2 killed there and both WILD.1 was confirmed that he traveled a LONG way in just 9 months.sad both were shot........
douge our sighting in clinton county have almost stopped,i have not heard of 1 report in last 2 yrs.that alone is something too.
with all gas wells being drilled, i would bet that sighting increase but those guys may be seeing a bobcat as they are not around things like this, so we may get a lot of false calls too.
douge our sighting in clinton county have almost stopped,i have not heard of 1 report in last 2 yrs.that alone is something too.
with all gas wells being drilled, i would bet that sighting increase but those guys may be seeing a bobcat as they are not around things like this, so we may get a lot of false calls too.
#384
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3
What I'm about to say is mind boggling.
I know for a fact that Cougars are here in PA. I know this because just outside of state college on Rt. 150 there is a breeder that sells them. Often people buy these exotic animals and then figure out that they cannot afford to feed them. This explains why every mountain lion killed since the turn of the 19th century is of latin american descent.
Now I am going to explain the real mystery. I go to college here in Lock Haven, PA and I am an environmental biology student. I spend a great deal of time in the Sproul State Forest ( one of the most remote areas in the NE US look on google earth). I go out and study all of the flora and fauna and can pretty much call myself a naturalist. The last mountain lion was killed in 1871 in the sproul state forest. In 1994 plaster casted tracks of a mountain lion were collected near Tamarack( also part of the sproul state forest). On 2/2/2010 I collected a piece of scat that was 7 1/2 inches long with deer hair and bone fragments twisted throughout. I am almost positive it is from a Cougar. It is way to big for a Bobcat and it looks nothing like Bear scat. This has me thinking. I know that odds of a breeding population of cougars in the NE is nearly impossible.
The real question is whether or not this **** came from a captive bred or wild cougar. All the captive bred cougars are declawed. Could it really be possible for a declawed cougar to successfully hunt when it was not even raised in the wild? It is possible, but seems very unlikely.
Right now the scat is on its way in the mail to the Eastern Cougar Research Network in West Virginia. Its DNA will then be tested to confirm whether or not it is from a cougar. If anybody has any other ideas about this mystery please share them. This is some serious ****.
Now I am going to explain the real mystery. I go to college here in Lock Haven, PA and I am an environmental biology student. I spend a great deal of time in the Sproul State Forest ( one of the most remote areas in the NE US look on google earth). I go out and study all of the flora and fauna and can pretty much call myself a naturalist. The last mountain lion was killed in 1871 in the sproul state forest. In 1994 plaster casted tracks of a mountain lion were collected near Tamarack( also part of the sproul state forest). On 2/2/2010 I collected a piece of scat that was 7 1/2 inches long with deer hair and bone fragments twisted throughout. I am almost positive it is from a Cougar. It is way to big for a Bobcat and it looks nothing like Bear scat. This has me thinking. I know that odds of a breeding population of cougars in the NE is nearly impossible.
The real question is whether or not this **** came from a captive bred or wild cougar. All the captive bred cougars are declawed. Could it really be possible for a declawed cougar to successfully hunt when it was not even raised in the wild? It is possible, but seems very unlikely.
Right now the scat is on its way in the mail to the Eastern Cougar Research Network in West Virginia. Its DNA will then be tested to confirm whether or not it is from a cougar. If anybody has any other ideas about this mystery please share them. This is some serious ****.
#387
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3
Mysterious Turd
I am not claiming to believe that Mountain Lions have been breeding here in PA for over a century without there being any evidence. All I am saying is that I found that piece of scat and it looks way to big to be from a coyote or bobcat. The tapered ends suggest a coyote, but with a drier diet Mtn. Lion scat can become tapered as well. I have never heard of a 7 1/2 in. coyote turd, but if anyone has please make me aware of it. It is also true that coyotes could have deer hair( from carrion) and bone fragments in their scat as well. Also take into consideration that when I found the scat is was very old and dried out, so the volume most likely decreased. The head of the eastern cougar research network is paying for the DNA test just based off the pictures he saw. I am not making a bull **** claim, but I am putting the evidence infront of you and asking for some opinions.
#390
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: PA.
Posts: 5,195
i hunt this area and have not seen or heard of cougar repert.
could you tell where you found it.
i would say it can only be 2 animals to make terd that big, coyote/cougar.......most of terds i see in tamarack are about4 inchs long and made by coyote..........