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bluebird2 09-22-2008 02:28 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 

I truly sympathize with you but Dr Alt didnt cause your problem. Your problem is caused by too FEW available doe permits for the demand.
Dr Alt advocated MORE not LESS doe permits when he was here.
Once again you demonstrate you lack of knowledge of deer management. The high altlerless allocations of 44k , requested by Alt in 2003 and 2004 reduced the herd to a point where it only took 28K tags to keep the herd stable in 2006 and 2007. Therefore, the herd reduction as a result of Alt's plan is directly responsible for the current low allocations in 2F.

BTBowhunter 09-22-2008 02:38 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2


I truly sympathize with you but Dr Alt didnt cause your problem. Your problem is caused by too FEW available doe permits for the demand.
Dr Alt advocated MORE not LESS doe permits when he was here.
Once again you demonstrate you lack of knowledge of deer management. The high altlerless allocations of 44k , requested by Alt in 2003 and 2004 reduced the herd to a point where it only took 28K tags to keep the herd stable in 2006 and 2007. Therefore, the herd reduction as a result of Alt's plan is directly responsible for the current low allocations in 2F.
And in the past 40 years there have been cycles in the old county oriented antlerless allocations several times generating either an excess or shortage of tags that affects non residents in particular. During that 40 years there have always been a few vocal doomsayers like bluebird2 claiming the impending doom for the deer herd to be just around the corner.

bluebird2 09-22-2008 02:43 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 

During that 40 years there have always been a few vocal doomsayers like bluebird2 claiming the impending doom for the deer herd to be just around the corner.
That is a totally false and misleading claim. You can't find one post where I claimed the herd was facing impending doom. I am very careful to avoid such ridiculous claims, so you owe me an apology.

BTBowhunter 09-22-2008 02:50 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 
LOL!

Tell you what, you start a poll asking Pa members to vote on whether or not that has been your message and mission and If a majority says I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

Cornelius08 09-22-2008 03:19 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 
For many years there have been clownish doomsdayers who were antideer. Guys who were ecoextremists and preached that the deer too large herd was on the cusp of destroying life in Pa as we know it, and we HAD to take extreme reduction actions immediately!... Funny thing is, the deer herd multiplied since thenby leaps and bound since and the predictions still never came to pass. Some infamous characters, like the joker than got himself thrown out of the game commission for his "over extreme" views. Cant remember the cats name.... On the tip of my tongue too.. Latham maybe?

bluebird2 09-22-2008 03:23 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 
I'll make it real simple for you. Just find one post where I said or implied the herd was facing impending doom. In fact, I don't recall making any predictions about the future of our herd ,except to say that the decrease in the number of hunters will eventually prevent the PGC from managing the herd at such low levels.

BTBowhunter 09-22-2008 03:37 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2

I'll make it real simple for you. Just find one post where I said or implied the herd was facing impending doom. In fact, I don't recall making any predictions about the future of our herd ,except to say that the decrease in the number of hunters will eventually prevent the PGC from managing the herd at such low levels.
Go ahead and run a poll. If the members here don't think that what I said has been your repeated message, I'll apologize!

bluebird2 09-22-2008 03:49 PM

RE: Pa Game Comm. Overhaul
 
There is no need for a poll. You lied about my position and you aren't man enough to admit it or apologize and that is fine with me because that is exactly what i expected.

Our herd and our hunting will survive for many more years despite the PGC's mis-guided management practices and hunters like you that support a 47% reduction in the buck harvest.

BTBowhunter 09-22-2008 03:52 PM

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Didn't think you'd take that challenge!

bluebird2 09-22-2008 03:56 PM

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And i didn't think you'd be man enough to tell the truth. That puts you and RSB in the same category.


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