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i was out coyote hunting,missed 2 on sat here in pa.
on my way in all along the pipeline for about 100 yds all the pine trees were pulled down and limbs were bro off.

i never saw this in my life.
at first i thought it must be elk that was rubbing its horns as only a few lower limbs were bro of ,THEN i came to pine trees that were 12 ft high that were pulled right to ground and roots were sticking.

then limbs were pulled off while on ground..

looks like someone took a chain saw to limbs but most were SNAPPED OFF..this happened last week as i was there before and no damage.........

i cant believe a animal could pull a pine tree down and roots out.

COULD A BEAR DO THIS.
i know bear hibernate now but i cant think of any anaimal that lives that could do this but a bear?

man, all years in woods i never saw that,its getting scary out there...............

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Air turbulence from black helicopters dropping cougars and coyotes funded by the insurance companies

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Any huge footprints around?? Sounds like a Sasquatch. Typical behavior this time of the year. Marking territory for the upcoming Spring mating season.......... Don't ever urinate at one of these sights and get it on your boot. They will follow the scent and try to mate with you. The offspring usually grow up to be Democrats. One even became Governor of Pennsylvania about 5 or so years ago. Just take a close look at the facial features....

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I thinkPawildman may have figured it out. Sproul, put up a trail cam and bait it with a Philly Cheese Steak!

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definately big foot. no doubt.

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i called a guy whohunts bear a lot more than me.

he lives for bear hunting..

he said that male bears will stay out all winter and some will come in/out of den, if they denned.

he said he sees it alot.

what bear does is climbs up the pine tree to eat at the little cones that are usually at top.
then his weight will bend tree down and bear will continue to hang on and pull it over..

the bear will also eat the pine limb bark and needles.

best part of the tree is at TOP,NOT BOTTOM OF TREE,SO THEY GO AFTER THAT.

he said, he is most likely a MALE bear and he is hungry.

he said when it snows , bears do not go after acorns as much if ground is frozen,they will eat tops of pines and break the h out of tree.

usually he said its pines no taller than 10/12 ft high from ground..

i have to admit, all years i am in woods ,i never saw that but area i hunt my deer in is not a bear area but there is bear i saw for last 2 years that is there that i wont shoot until he gets above 200 pds,he is still little.

i stopped a DCNR employee TODAYand asked if he ever saw this.

he said, SPROUL GO UP HYNER,PA MTN TO VIEW AND LOOK ON PIPELINES.

he said over 5,000 trees the bears have destroyed iN those yellow containers that were 10 ft tall,he said they tore the trees RIGHT OUT OF GROUND.

well, now you have it..

if anyone would like to add their info on this, i would be interested.


what is next, BEARS PULLING TREES OUT OF GROUND.:eek:

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Don't forget that we had several pretty good ice storms here this year in PA. Ice loves to cling to and weigh down evergreen trees in particular and the soft wood is prone to weight damage. A couple of these storms were followed by pretty heavy winds as well.

I'd bet a dollar to a donut that all you saw was damage caused by the weight of ice. We have a couple pine trees here in the back yard that sound exactly like what you describe and they were broken under the extra weight and wind. Winds are generally stronger in the tunnels that pipelines form.

Not bears.........just some garden variety weather. ;)

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could have been a YETI?

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my brother stopped tonight to see me .
he said while scouting before gun season this year in hyner.
he saw the same thing that i did,trees ripped right out of ground and PULLED OVER .

he said that there was teeth marks on the trees.

he saw tubes with trees in,he thought they were shot with shotgun pellets,he looked closer and it was teeth marks.

he had hunted this area 2 weeks before in grouse season and not 1 tube or pine tree was damaged.

i am not being critical to your idea,weather was bad and it was something i never saw in my life in woods..

its funny, all pine trees were pulled down and broke on 1 SIDE of pipeline, on the other side not 1 pine tree was damaged..

i did see were something ate the bark off the limbs that were broke off and some the needles were eaten,but maybe that was done after trees were down?

but after talking to DCNR boys about at least 5,000 trees were destroyed by bears in hyner area alone,it makes you wonder what is going on.

bears now eating trees and killing fawns,oh my!

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I haven't seen them do this to pine trees. But this past fall during archery season a bear had just about every sassafras tree pulled over to eat the little red fruit on them. It was like walking through a tunnel.

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Bears should be hibernating. Sounds like ice/snow clinging to tree limbs weighing them down bigtime. I'm with Matt on this one...

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i saw that also too but dont know name of those trees.
its ones with those little red berries on.
in between the pine trees there are those 10 ft high trees with berries on.

those also were bro about 8 ft up from the bottom an chew marks all over.

this was done about 2 weeks ago, i was out putting corn in feeders for deer..

i cant believe damage i saw and i did find the bear in his den,my dog tried to dig him out.
he does go in/out of den too,it must be the warm weather on/off has him all messed up on when to wake up.:eek:

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I tend to agree, DougMD, but Sproul said twice that roots were sticking out of the ground. I can't remember ever seeing ice and snow do that. Break branches off and even snap the trunks of trees that size, yes. But expose roots? I'm more in the favor of some high-velocity winds. Perhaps the two factors in combination-----ice & snow plus high winds....That I could believe.

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could be,dougmd, but the berries trees which are about 3 inchs round and 10 ft highwere also bro and i cant figure how snow would sit on those limbs,i guess if tree froze,

i dont disagree with you or matt also,maybe bear or deer then ate trees after they were on ground..

i found no deer tracks deer this area only 1 set of bear tracks AFTER the damage was done.

something ate bark of limbsand most of needles in top 3 ft of all the trees that were down, and pulled the limbs from trees.

i never saw deer ever do this after tree was on its side but i guess maybe a deer could do it..

as for bears out in winter, oh yes, MALES will stay out..

we have one, a bigone at all camps in kettle creek area,he goes from camp to camp.

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Hmmmm? Good point on the roots. Thatdoesn't indicateice and snow. I don't know then. My thoughts were bears would hibernate when they get less food then the energy they have to expend to get it. If they got so hungry as to tear down trees, they'd probably already be laid up for the winter. Interesting...

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strange,for sure.
yes, roots are sticking out.

what is mind boggling is the trees that were pulled out and eaten in those yellow tubes for miles on pipelines.
DCNR when i asked if they knew what happened said,SPROUL DIDNT YOU SEE ALL DAMAGE DONE TO THOSE TREES WE PLANTED ON PIPELINES..
i said, no.

they said THOUSANDS of trees are pulled over or pulled right out of ground and tubes are eaten that surrounded the trees.

my brother thought the tubes were shot by kids playing around with shotguns but when he looked, he saw teeth marks all over tubes..

i have not got out to hyner,pa. pipelines yet do to slippery rds to see this myself..

dcnr said 4 summers of hard work planting trees and they are all destroyed by BEARS.

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That's the problem with planting apples trees in bear country, they'll destroy them as soon as they grow apples the first time.

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getting off this a little,i had a 500 pd bear coming into my treestand this year in archery season.
he had 2 tags in his ear ,1 was yellow ,other was red.

can you believe no one has got him.

i called the PGC and asked if any with 2 tags in 1 ear were turned in and they said no.

these old male bears are really a slippery one to get in bear season.

that bear is back still out wandering around camps ,he travels, i bet at least 10 miles covering all camps in area.

you can put your hand in his track with no problem and not touch the toes.:eek:

i see you are from md,i used to get some of the biggest bucks from OLNEY,MD. it was montgomery county.i hunted bucks a lot then and traveled all over.

there was a catholic convenant there,i saw 1 time 100 deer in field and 34 were bucks.

i saw 12 point that i believe was state record at that time,1974,i hunted right next to there..
i bet that catholic place is gone now,i heard all land there is being sold for homes and sharpshooters are killing of what deer are left.very sad.[:@]

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Yeah, monkey county is a liberal haven nowadays. I'm between Baltimore and Annapolis, in a relatively rural area, Gambrills near Crofton...

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Doug...Used to pass thru your area when we went to O.C. for a week or two years ago. This old hillbilly was lost without some hills to see....

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i used to fish bass tournaments in 5 states in 1980,s.

there were lakes near baltimore i used to fish, i cant remember names off hand.

i also fished the mattawoman on potomac with some of pros that are now on tv and my boat is from RICK CLUNN and i still have it.
they used to sell their stuff after we fished in tournaments.

boy, that was a lot of fun in your area,i knocked a lot of propellers off in that river at 60 miles per hr.in tournaments.:D

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I have seen where a bear has gotten up in the middle of winter, and he never went after pine cones either. He had a deer buried in the leaves and one warm day in the dead of winter he went for a snack and dug that deer out of the leaves and dragged it to the top of some ledges to snack on. It was some strange to see bear tracks in the snow up here.

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SPROULMAN: when are you going to give it up!! LOL

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i was out to pipelinesfriday with a DCNR employee that was in this area,this area is called HYNER RUN,PA.

as far as you could see almost every tree was pulled out of ground or broken off ,hundreds and hundreds of trees.they said this goes on for miles.

on the tubes that tree is in,there are TEETH marks like someone shot the tubes with no.5 shot.

none of these trees were PINES.

i could not believe the amount of damage.

these trees were about 10 ft high..

there is no tree laying on ground also, they were carried away somewhere by a BEAR ..
[:-]
dont laugh, i saw it and DCNR says it was bears and its first they ever saw bears do this also.

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phil, our bears are out in winter and ONLY male ones.

our weather is warm/cold all winter.my dog followed bear tracks to his den and week later tracks were coming out and in.we have a 500 pd bear that is roaming camps ,right now in kettle creek area.

during our latest coyote hunt we saw bear tracks ,this was in same area that pine and fruit tree was pulled over and needles and some of bark eaten on limbs.

and it was certain needle pine that was eaten, it was not spruce type it was real long needles about 8 inchs with like a little cone thing on end.only trees that are laying on their sides is the pines with the long needles,the spruce pines in between are still standing and no damage?

soon i will be learning how to put pictures on here and how to use my camcorder.


i agree, i never heard of bears eating trees until i talked to DCNR and they said, they do.they showed me the damage and i was shocked.:eek:

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This was definatly ice

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The moderator hit the nail on the head!!!