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Is it just PA that has all these morons in the woods. Too many illegal bucks have been taken with the new point restriction. In our local paper, many hunters who have already taken their buck, went back out and shot 4 pts and tug them with their antlerless tag thinking they were legal in that respect.

I'm afraid to think that the majority of PA hunters fall into the moron catagory.

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Edited by - Rob/PA Bowyer on 12/05/2002 21:56:50

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I will match your morons with the morons in my locale, and raise you several morons.

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Rob, I think it's not too much to assume that alot of these &quot;hunters&quot; are &quot;one-day-a-year&quot; guys. They didn't read the rules very well if at all. They just listened to the news or read the paper that didn't give all the details. We all knew something was going to happen, I didn't think this would be an issue, but....

I hope that most of the hunters in this state are following the rules, but we all know that the law enforcement officers are few and the slob hunters many. The only fesible way to accomplish compliance is self enforcement.

Sorry to hear about what's happening in your area. I haven't seen the same happen in my area, but it actually suprises me that I haven't. I expected the worst and hoped for the best.

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Everyone has their morons, but my point would be: With the way the book reads if you turn yourself in for illegal buck kill you pay $25 and then it is discretionary to warden on whether or not to fine you $500 and license revocation. I have not heard of a single case yet where someone got just $25 fine. No one wants to sit out a year for a mistake and it is easier to leave the carcass in the woods then sit out a year. It was evident from the start of Antler Restrictions that there would be more deer left in the woods. I am glad my group is on private land and follwing the rules. Fewer MORONS in the woods, would make the world a much better place.

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<font color=red>ROB</font id=red>, these guys are not hunters, they are <font color=green>weekend warriors</font id=green>. 90% have NO clue! I actually am afraid if I have to enter the woods in rifle season. So in that respect I do not call them &quot;hunters&quot; Just my two cents.

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kidd took my word! i thought i was the only one to call these once a day a year hunters weekend warriors...i never heard anyone but myself use it...thats too kool! and i agree...i was dragging my buck out and he asked me if it was legal i was like yep but it dont matter im a junior hes like whats that mean? i explained...then hes like well how can u tell if its legal? i was like it HAS to have 3 pts to one side to be legal..and i drug away..looked to my dad and was like dad...they give people guns and hunting liscenes to people that cant even count to 3!??! then about 2 mins later i heard him spraying the woods down with some lead out of his lever gun...i feel bad for the deer in PA...i feel like a really great shot with grown men like that out there...being i never shot a deer more than once and never missed or lost a deer(except when my scope was broke but i scratch that year out!) if everybody would follow the simple rules we would have a great herd and lots of trophys bucks everywhere...but some morons wont cooperate so the ARs wont work so great and people will blam Alt and the ARs will be dropped...i think im taking up bow hunting...better chances of bagging a nice buck..and not so many chances of getting nailed with a giant hunk of lead randomly being thrown by some moron!

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Scarey isn't it.

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Do you think these guys are the same guys who went out for the three day doe season last year near my house????? These idiots were driving and everything, out in plain sight, and no wardens to be found. Figures.....

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This may be a huge generational issue that will take time to develop. In NJ, the areas that have QDM have received overwhelming responses from younger hunters (50 and under). My club tried QDM last year only to have the &quot;older guys&quot; bitch/moan so much that we scrapped the whole plan for gun season.

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I live in Lancaster county, I was reading the Sunday News and opened to the Outdoor section. It told some stories of 4-point bucks being shot, than left for dead (because they were illegal). The article talked about hunters in southern Lancaster.

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Don't thrive on the slobs out there.

There's an excellent 20 pt that was taken just north of Harrisburg. Great story there. I read in the paper where donations are up for Hunters Sharing the Harvest. I wish I could find it but this program provides many meals to those that need it courtesy of some very generous hunters.

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We needed 3 points where I hunted. I let what was surely a legal deer walk away because I could not be sure of the point count. All I could see was the fork & it was very large. I later saw deer hanging with forks that were about the size of our Thanksgiving turkey's wishbone. All they needed was a nub to make up the third point, but I didn't get out of the truck to see if these were legal. Guess I should have. I think I let a legal deer walk away because I was not certain, and I'm glad I did.

I live in Ohio and hunt both states. Tagged a doe in Ohio, but nothing in PA since I didn't get a doe tag. Saw 16 does the first day in PA!

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I read the comments concerning PA hunters and felt compelled to respond. I have been hunting since 1980 and have never been afraid to enter the woods and find the vast majority of the hunters I've encountered to be decent guys and gals. I think it's counter productive to be so condeming of others, especially in a forum that is accessible by so many. What message are we sending to those who may be reading this and forming opinions about hunters and hunting? To be sure, we probably have all had bad experiences, but painting the majority of PA hunters as morons is not fair nor accurate. I hunt in a very rural, mountainous area that is often ridiculed as backward and redneckish. It's funny that the guys I've met from this area are the exact opposite of the ones portrayed in these threads. They're not perfect, but I am pleased to share the woods with them.

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Well said BUCKTAIL, You must hunt in my neck of the woods.We have a few bad apples here but the vast majority are sportsmen.

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Bucktail, you make a great post, unfortunately, good actions don't make the paper, just the morons and more often than not, there's too many out there. Think of it as more of a learning scale....perhaps someone will think twice.

I'm scared as hell in our rifle season, that's why I don't go....unless I'm guiding or patrolling.

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bucktail maybe the &quot;morons&quot; as others would call them might read this and be compelled to change their ways and see the time and energy we put into the sport we call hunting. it is amazing the lack of respect and info these people have, the GC does what they can by giving everyone a rule book but what are they to do? go and read it to them for a bedtime story? maybe we should sight their guns in for them? i just don't get how someone could not understand the rules and regs, it just blows my mind. but if the &quot;morons&quot; live in the city they are used to bullets flying everywhere so why should they think it should be different in the woods. but i have run into many of them and the total lack of common sense is astounding. alright i'm done complaining thanks.....

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My point in responding to this post was that I have not seen these actions described by many. I believe hunters are a cross-section of society and include all types. The vast majority of the ones I've met have been decent people, though. They're the ones who have helped drag a deer, chatted about the hunting, and even offered to share a lunch or drink. Not all were good hunters, but they, like me were out enjoying a day away from work and everyday stresses. Maybe I'm simply fortunate to hunt in an area just inaccessible enough that only those really serious about the sport would travel. Perhaps if I lived near more urban areas with higher hunter densities I would feel differently. I don't question that these actions really happened, but I don't think we are helping our cause by taking these events and painting so many hunters with the same brush. Is it really the majority of hunters who commit these acts? I seriously doubt that these same people are also reading these posts and will change their ways. I think we're more likely to leave a non-hunter with a sour taste about hunting, or reinforce an anti-hunter's opinion than change any person's actions. I've checked out PETA's website and was incensed by their statements. I'm sure some of them check out our sites as well. On the other hand, we do need the opportunity to vent and gain reassurance that there are other good, like-minded sportsmen out there who are enraged by the actions of slobs. I just don't believe that there are as many slobs as this thread would suggest