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RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
BTB,
Ohio has a huge deer herd. In some places 30-40 dpsm.And ya' know what. They have primarily bow seasons. A few days of rifle,a few days of muzzleloader. I would be in favor of a bow season from Mid Sept. to the end Of Jan. That would probably cause the deer #'s to grow. Bailey,CH,mocha and that crew will be happy 'cause the herd will grow because as they say ,"archery is not effective". All they have to do is pick up a bow...problem solved. That settles it. I'm going to suggest it to keep my brother hunters happy. What do 'ya think? |
RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
crazyhorse,I hunt in Sinnehamhoning which isextremely rugged andnot all that far from Coudersport.I see deer eevrytime I go there but I concentrate on areas that have a little better habitat which isn't saying much for that area.One thing I rarely ever see is another hunter so an overharvest is not the reason for low deer numbers in that area.
My freezer is already topped off so I have no reason to head to the SRA's. |
RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
ORIGINAL: Mocha Java ORIGINAL: Mailman29680 Really 80% could be lost as 20% harvest 80% of the deer but themoney lost would be too much. 10-15% is probably what could be afforded. If 15% is an accurate guess, IMHO we will probably be there this coming year or next. BTW, the US F&W Service just released the 2005 national sales figures. When Pa. lost 5.9% of its hunters, the rest of the country lost only1.4%. State 2004 2005 NY 627K 573K MI832K 789K TX1.07M 1.04M WI 722K 713K PA 1.02M 1.01M Even the traditional deer hunting state of WI boasting a herd of 1.5 million deer lost almost 2% of it's hunters??? Please explain this with special emphasis on their HR program. |
RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
Because I wasn't cherrypicking.
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RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
Nice try Mocha, Quoting only part of something is a tired old way to mislead folks.
It's also known more commonly as LYING!!! Here's the WHOLE article.... Hunting license sales generate record funding for conservation U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service — Feb. 1, 2007 NEWTOWN, Conn. — A new report shows 25 states performed better than the national rate in sales of hunting licenses, tags and stamps in 2005. Altogether, national sales, the main funding mechanism for state conservation agencies, set a new record, topping $723 million. The 2005 figures, just released by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, show total sales rose 2.8 percent from the previous year, while the number of customers slipped 1.4 percent, from 14.7 million to 14.5 million. The total number of U.S. hunters, including both licensed and non-licensed, is estimated much higher than the 14.5 million acknowledged in the federal report. The National Sporting Goods Association calculates 20.6 million active hunters. The Outdoor Industry Association's latest estimate surpasses 26 million. And in a new survey commissioned by the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) and conducted by independent firm Responsive Management, 19 percent of Americans, more than 50 million people, said they've hunted in the past two years. Depending on local laws, non-licensed hunters may include: • Young hunters who aren't yet required to buy a license. • Hunters at wingshooting and other game preserves. • Landowners hunting on their own property. •. Lessees hunting on land where they reside. • Active duty military on leave. • Citizens who hunt only on free hunting days. • Senior citizens no longer required to buy a license. "Every hunter is an important asset to the firearm and hunting industry, but the number of license buyers is also significant because that's who contributes the most to habitat restoration, wildlife management and other conservation programs," said Doug Painter, president of NSSF. "Special excise taxes on guns and ammunition rose to more than $224 million for conservation in 2005, but license sales more than tripled that amount," In 2005, 14,575,484 hunters purchased 35,609,605 different licenses, tags and stamps at an average cost of $20.32 each. Total sales reached $723,712,681. Sales totals have risen steadily in recent years, while licensed hunter numbers have risen in just two of the past seven years. Painter said fluctuations are tied to fee increases, game populations, weather and many other factors. However, since peaking in the mid-1980s, hunting participation has been trending downward, challenged mostly by loss of land access and recreational time. NSSF administers or supports a variety of programs to help offset these challenges. For example, its Hunting Heritage Partnership has allocated $1.7 million in grants to 33 states for projects such as signage and maps of public hunting lands, hunter recruitment campaigns and more. Families Afield works to safely reduce legal barriers into hunting such as age restrictions and coursework mandates. The portal web site HuntandShoot.org is designed to connect hunters nationwide with critical where-to and how-to information. The new U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service data on hunting license buyers are comparatively good news for 25 states that performed better than the national rate. Highlights include Tennessee, which added over 45,000 new hunters for a gain of 6.2 percent. Arizona, South Dakota and South Carolina also enjoyed large increases in numbers of licensed hunters. At the other end of the spectrum are New York, Michigan, Texas, Indiana and West Virginia. Together these five states documented 168,331 fewer license buyers, a number representing 83 percent of the total decline nationally. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service National Hunting License Report State 2004 Paid License Holders 2005 Paid License Holders Variance AZ 182,044 196,706 8.1% TN 730,495 775,511 6.2% DE 18,480 19,472 5.4% SD 232,053 243,123 4.8% SC 210,136 220,126 4.8% NE 165,952 170,785 2.9% NV 58,722 60,385 2.8% WA 193,046 197,135 2.1% NM 103,968 105,966 1.9% AK 98,084 99,954 1.9% IL 330,360 336,203 1.8% WY 136,839 139,064 1.6% ID 250,648 254,678 1.6% MD 120,914 122,371 1.2% ND 147,240 148,919 1.1% LA 277,108 280,167 1.1% MS 234,797 236,067 0.5% GA* 314,569 314,569 0.0% MN 571,581 571,547 0.0% OK 341,260 341,213 0.0% VA 317,484 317,239 -0.1% MT 232,869 231,936 -0.4% AR 378,162 375,737 -0.6% PA 1,018,664 1,006,293 -1.2% WI 722,803 713,610 -1.3% National Average Variance -1.4% OR 283,327 279,140 -1.5% KS 202,274 198,368 -1.9% KY 350,544 343,456 -2.0% CO 318,971 312,151 -2.1% IA 286,607 280,398 -2.2% CA 305,962 299,303 -2.2% OH 442,214 431,815 -2.4% NC 438,172 427,608 -2.4% MO 492,500 479,959 -2.5% NH 62,587 60,737 -3.0% UT 153,501 148,849 -3.0% AL 267,354 259,241 -3.0% ME 205,600 199,102 -3.2% TX 1,073,847 1,039,709 -3.2% CT 54,130 52,207 -3.6% RI 9,302 8,940 -3.9% NJ 86,588 82,566 -4.6% MI 832,835 789,244 -5.2% HI 8,211 7,775 -5.3% VT 86,512 81,265 -6.1% WV 254,222 238,355 -6.2% IN 303,217 282,261 -6.9% FL 175,067 161,273 -7.9% NY 627,749 573,970 -8.6% MA 69,500 59,016 -15.1% Total 14,779,071 14,575,484 -1.4% A paid license holder is one individual, regardless of the number of licenses purchased. *NOTE: Georgia did not report 2005 figures. 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RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
ORIGINAL: archer58 BTB, Ohio has a huge deer herd. In some places 30-40 dpsm.And ya' know what. They have primarily bow seasons. A few days of rifle,a few days of muzzleloader. I would be in favor of a bow season from Mid Sept. to the end Of Jan. That would probably cause the deer #'s to grow. Bailey,CH,mocha and that crew will be happy 'cause the herd will grow because as they say ,"archery is not effective". All they have to do is pick up a bow...problem solved. That settles it. I'm going to suggest it to keep my brother hunters happy. What do 'ya think? |
RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
ORIGINAL: Mocha Java Looking closer at that 1.4% lost figure which was 200,000 hunters lost, I can see that Pa.'s 50,000+ figure that year made up 25% of all lost hunters in America.Wow! 2004 2005 1,018,6641,006,293 That's a difference of 12,371. Where in the world are you getting 50,000 PA hunters lost in one year?? |
RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
Ohio is awesome.I hunt some properties in Ashtabula county.It doesn't compare to Pa though.They don't have alot of public land and permission is tough to come by on private property.I actually see a little less deer out there than I do in 2G but you stand a legitimate chance of seeing a true world class buck.
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RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
ORIGINAL: Mocha Java Because I wasn't cherrypicking. |
RE: How many hunters is is all right to lose?
Please refer to other topics on same subject(duplication).This has been beat to death with bashing,insults,arguments,name calling etc......
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