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I just read in the Pittsburgh Tribune Review that the PA State Attorney Generals office has been askedto consider recovering restitution from the USP for their frivolous lawsuit.

Sounds fair that the taxpayers of PA shouldn't have to foot the bill for their dog and pony show.

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Of course and this is all legal and on the up and up. If a suit is dismissed as without merit the defendant can sue for damages, and they really should in this case because the legal expense came from the general fund of the state of PA I believe. That means all us taxpayers. I want my money back!

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So do I

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Commissioner Isabella is the one that asked the AG's office to consider recovering the costs of litigation from USP. He was also bounced from USP'smembers-onlychat forum last week, even though he has been a life member of that org for years.

SinceUSP isboasting about all the new members the lawsuit campaign hasbrought them, sounds about right that they berequired to spend some of that new-found wealth back to the taxpayers of Pennsylvania.

BTW, they were a no-show at today's PGC meeting. Suspect their spin will be that there is no point in attending, sincethey'll claim that the commissioners pay no attention to hunter input anyway. The commissioners did manage to pay attention to the 50+ that came to speak today. More will address the board tomorrow morning, prior to the scheduled meeting reports and consideration of agenda items.

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Probably still scrubbin the egg off their faces

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Man ashame they didnt spend there money wisely. All that money they could have put into youth programs. Alot of wasted time and money!!!!!![:@] Im sure they will be at the eastern outdoor show saying how great they are!!![:'(]

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Dr. B and Woody the avocational deer biologist were at today's PGC meeting. Both looked kindaglum, but since they generally alwayslook that way, hard to tell if it was due to anything they'd just heard there?

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USP should get their members together next hunt season, Apply for as many does tags as they can, Go to each SGL and drive the deer till everyone fills their tags. 25 hunters per drive times 2 to 3 doe tags each=50+ dead deer per 25 hunters per group.About 200k members,That will get the doe season closed for sure.WE plan on doing that next year with our group of about 15 so far we have decided. We will start on opening day and drive the SGL as hard as we can to fill all of our tags. Maybe the USP might want to consider this kind of action since the court action don't work. Make them close the doe season down for couple years. Action is stronger than words and need to be used sometimes to get the job done.

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Isn't it time for your medication?

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The USP has 200,000 members?[&:]

Well, after reading your ingenious plan, it sounds like you and your compadres would fit right in with the USP.:)

Bellview.....better build a new wing, and stock up on those cute little suits. The ones with the buttons in the back.;)

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"drive the deer till everyone fills their tags............... We will start on opening day and drive the SGL as hard as we can to fill all of our tags."

I'm thinking that'll be closer to actual hunting than any of those clowns ever experienced. Good luck with getting them out in the big scary, woods.

"200k members,"Hahahahahahahahaha! Must be 192,000 aliens have joined!

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That really is funny. Imagine that. The USP is complaining that there aren't any deer, so they go out and kill them all. What a wonderful thought process this guy has. NOT.

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Just another example of your average, well informed, rank and file, grassroots, USP member:D

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I don't believe that he speaks for the USP andy more than you speak for United Bow Hunters of PA.

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Not what I said. The USP is very careful about who "speaks" for them. Propaganda must be well prepared and executed craftily. I beleive he is a typical member who has bought into said propaganda.

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"BT", first of all USP does not put out "Propaganda." Allow me to quote "Webster's" defination of Propaganda:

Propaganda, the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person.

Your comment of "I beleive he is a typical member who has bought into said propaganda." is exactly that, PROPAGANDA.

In your case, having little or no contact with USP members or any dealings with the organization, you have no first hand knowledge of what a "typical member" is like. In this particular instance you show your profound ignorance. I do not mean that in any derogatory manner. I use that term only to show your lack of knowledge in this field.

In fact the PGC is much better in putting out Propaganda than the USP will ever be. If needed I can show you an example of PGC propagands. Actually, Gary Alt was a master at the craft.

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Altwas a master of the craft.Glad he's gone now so we can all move past it.The usp is full of propaganda and theirspeaker is even worse.Lets see,wolf coyote hybrids in excess of 80 lbs.Mountain lions,cattle tucks loaded with coyotes in front of the Dallas regional office,acid rain,deer pawing trees etc.I could go on and on but then again,you can read most of it on the USP site.You guys thrive on propaganda because you have no proof or evidence to back up any of your crazed conspiracey theories.

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DougE (dce) please....your doctor would want you to continue to take the medication.

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I believe DougE provided enough examples of the ideas, information or rumor.

The USP taking that and making a lawsuit out of it completes the definition by including the "for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution". The USP used propaganda to both attempt to injure the PGC (failed)and to furhter thier own cause (failed again). The dismissal with predjudice demonstrates that the courts held the same opninion.

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"BT", I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I guess I must have touched your sore spot.

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Dont worry yourself John. My feelings aren't hurt in the least. The USP used to make me angry but they now simply amuse me.

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In fact, losing the law suit may well be a good thing for the USP in that the organization is gaining more members who are now even more committed to seeing a change in the "Kill All The Deer" policy of the PGC.

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Really?you guys in the double digits yet with your membership?What kind of misguided soul would join an organization that just filed a Lawsuit based on mountain lions eating the deer and deer pawing up trees.Seriously John,if I got hoodwinked into joining that organization based on that lawsuit,I'd be calling the treasurer every day,asking for a refund.

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Geesh, the USP has spread more propaganda than any so-called, organization, I've ever encountered.

Oh, by the way, I honestly would not be surprised at one or two 80-pound coyotes being taken at some time.
I killed one coyote that weighed 53 pounds and I've seen bigger ones around. Two others I killed went 27 and 31 pounds.

There has been genetic testing done and there does exist a wolf genetic factor in our coyotes.
This information was published by --- THE PENNSYLVANIA GAME NEWS --- TWO DECADES AGO!

Of course, USP claimed responsibility for forcing the PGC to acknowlede this --- even though they did acknowledge ittwo decades earlier.

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DougE (dce) you have yet to post any photos of your deer kills. I guess they were imagined and not real. Actually your one of USP's best recruiters.

Do you own a digital camera?

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No.I do not own a digital camera.My wife has one but I've never even looked at it.Why, do you want me to open my freezer and take a picture?Seriously,have someone in the PGC look up my harvest reports for the past several years.You'll find lot's of harvest report cards from public land in 2G.The DMAP's are a dead giveaway that they were taken on public land.

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John, you are really reaching here by dwelling on your obsession with seeing pictures of a few of Dougs dead deer. He's clearly stated more than once that the report cards are on file. Ifit is really that hard for you to beleive that someone can still harvest deer in 2G in spite of your perception of the area , I truly feel sorry for you.

PS: what does DougE's successes have to do with the topic here?

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I really don't know what say other than the PGC has a record of my kills.It's been years since I've taken a picture of a deer.I kill them on a pretty regular basis in the fall so it really isn't that big of an event at my house.Besides,what would a picture prove?It sure wouldn't prove whereI killed them.Have someone look my harvest records up.It's all there and the report cards tellwhere the deer were killed.It just takes a phone call or an e-mail John.Iknow it's been years since you killed a deer.Perhaps that's why you're so angry and disgruntled.

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Are you saying that people reading these topics here on Hunting.net are joining in mass because of what DougE posts? Now that's "propaganda", come on who you trying to kid, John?

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Propganda works both ways, and you folks are helping.

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Obviously - Like most of these topics a few are unable to discusss game issues like grown men.