RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

What about the Bear Program? I'd say it was a big sucess.


Black Bear numbers have incresed substantially in Pennsylvania, from around 4,000 in the 1970s to around 14,000 today. A dramatic growth has provided more opportunities for people to see bears, which is an experience many treasure, and bear hunting has greatly improved.
(From PGC website)

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

What program?They closed bear season and that was it.Nothing to manage there.Don't kill the bears and the population will grow.And that took some kind of special management to do?Not hardly.

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

Uh, once again, you don't have a clue LP! The season was closed for only a very short time in the 70's and the bear population has flourished since it was reopened while bear hunting opportunities havebeen expanded several times as well.

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

Like I said they closed bear season down.They didn't do anything special did they?Limit the bear tags all so,I am sorry I didn't mention that.There was nothing special to it other than that.They open and closed seasons on bear.Whats so special about that?You call that a bear program.No work involved at all for it.And besides that,Big game animals are easy to manage.The small game and the predators is what needs a program that works to eliminate the predators and increase the small game.I say take care of the predators then the small game might have a chance.There's a program they should work on insead of concetrating on eliminating the deer herd for money.I think the PGC should hold a predator hunt few times a year.10$ entry fee and who ever gets the most coyotes and foxes gets 1/4 of the take and the rest can go to funding wildlife.They can make money and help lower the predator population at the same time.

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

Nope. No work at all. just sell those licenses and rake in the $$. Game management is easy. You have all the answers. Anyone reading your posts can tell that you must have extensive experience and knowledge in all facets of wildlife management. Maybe you should seek an appointment on the Game Commisions board.

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

If you can read them! First LP complains the PGC is mismanaging the Deer herd( which I agree partially) now he's complaining about too many predators and not enough small game. He seems to have issue with everything about the PGC. He's just a PGC hater in my opinion. I wonder how he'll feel about the DCNR taking over the duties. I imagine then he'll really be bitchin. I don't know what else the PGC can do to try to fix the predator problem. Coyotes are open pretty much all year round they've opened it up to electronic calling now the have given hunters every oppourtunity to hunt them. But LP's fix is to offer a bounty on them. That's brilliant! Let's now tell the PGC they need to buy games of chance licenses to offer these awards for most killed coyotes. WOW the wheels are really turnin now!

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

L/P,

As I said in my post I was a PA resident all of my life until 2 years ago. And have been hunting there sinse I was 12.
I'm not going to argue that there are bad apples inthe group of out of state hunters, because I agreewith you 100% many areslobs. However, I'm sure that just as high of a percentage (probably higher) of instate guys are slobs as well.
And actually I do agree that out of state hunters should pay more for a liscense. I already pay about $160 which is about triple instate costs, and I feel that is enough. In PA this year I've shot 1 wood duck, and 4 pheasants. I have noteven shot adeer ( I've had several opportunities on decent bucks that I passed on to hopefully let them grow another year).
And you know what, I'm ok with that, because I pay to hunt, not to kill, and I enjoy hunting. I feel like I got plenty of enjoyment out of my $160 to do it again.
But if the PGC were to double the cost to a Ridiculous amount,I could no longer justify it to my wife or myself. And I'm sure the same would happen with most out of state guys. Along with them leaving, so would all the revenue from out of state sales. So thenext yearPGC would raise the instate costs, and sell more doe tags (further reducing the herd)to try and fill the void. (sounds like a great part of your plan to me.) which woud lead to even more instate guys callin git quits wich would, again reduce the PGC revinue, causing another raise in fees, and a reduction in services from the PGC. Thus excelling the cycle of the decline of hunting.(great plan)
Also, my family ownes a decent amount of property in PA that we pay taxes on, and we are looking to buy more. So howwould it beit fair that just because my house is 15 miles accross the border that I should have to pay 7 time what an instate guy would pay,have himcome hunt on our land? That he does not pay taxes on. As things are right now all of our property is open to public hunting. AndI would like to keep them that way. But I won't own land, and pay tax on it and not hunt on it. So I'd probably post it and sell a couple guys a hunting lease, to pay for my liscense. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that would do this. (more posted land; that also sounds like a great part of your plan for PA).
Boy, your 'plan' sounds like you put alot of thought in it.
(Further reduce the deer herd, More posted land in PA, cut the PGC funding, loose more hunters, prevent the introduction of new hunters, excell the decline of hunting.) This sound like a great 'plan' to me.

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

Did they have to go and buy bear as they did the other wildlife they reintroduced in Pa.. NopeDid they have to monitor them to see how they would cope here,Nope.No work involved.Not a program in my book. Knowledge,common sence though yes.

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

Uh Oh! LP has exposed the conspiracy!! The PGC is buying wildlife to reintroduce into PA! I guess they're taking that doe tag money and buying coyotes and cougars,right?

RE: What I see in my crystal ball, concerning PA.
 

Hey,You still haven't answered my question why you squeeze the trigger and kill deer.Tell us it's fun to killanimals and watch them hit the ground.I thought you wasn't goanna reply to any of my replys.You now just proved yourself a lier.Good job TRYkY. As for the game of chances,I believe they all ready got that. Elk and bobcat tags.