How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
09-25-2006 | 11:08 AM
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RE: How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
Most times one can distinguish a Button Buck from a doe. Then again it can sometimes be near imposible. I have seen lots of BB where the nubs haddarkened hair around them and made me look twice. A friend of mine shot a "Doe" a few years ago no more then 35 yards distant that turned out to be a BB. This deer had only the slightestof a bump on it's skull and you would havehad to be within 6 feet of the animal to tell it was a buck.
There are times when you can be fooled.
There are times when you can be fooled.
09-25-2006 | 11:29 AM
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RE: How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
Sorry you took my words personally. It wasnt meant quite the way It seems you took it. I said difficult not impossible. the point that I was trying to make is that there are other signs other than those nubs on the head. Button bucks are generally bigger than their sisters and we often see fawns in the family group especially in bow season, Button bucks also very often have a larger more muscular neck. I often look at that before I even have a chance to see the head. If you look at the other thread regarding passing up BB's I related a situation where I shot one with a muzzleloader.
No offense was meant to any hunter who tries their best not to shoot BB's. If my words were ill chosen, I apologize. We are all human and sometimes make mistakes. Your story proves just that. Next time you are able to observe a BB up close, look carefully at the other differences. Maybe it might help prevent the type of accident we all want to prevent.
ORIGINAL: DUMB BASS
1st off I've passed on many BB's, I was hiding behind a hay bale in a weed field next to a green soybean field. Watched a lone deer work my way. Got there right at last shooting light, I made a good shot a recovered my deer, a BB. It was neither a lack of experience or indifference. I honestly thought it was a decent doe. (weighed about 90 lbs dressed)I was a little bummed when I saw it's nubs, but happy and thankful for the deer. So it can "accidentally" happen, I hope you never make a "mistake", oh great one.
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
It's pretty difficult for an archer to "accidentally" shoot a button buck and not know what he's is doing. Besides those nubs, a button buck isoften the bigger of two fawns when encountered in archery season. they also often have amore muscular neck. Other than a fairly new and inexperienced, any button buck shot by an archer is either intentional or an act of indifference. I'll let the other archers speak for them selves bu they're in no danger near me
It's pretty difficult for an archer to "accidentally" shoot a button buck and not know what he's is doing. Besides those nubs, a button buck isoften the bigger of two fawns when encountered in archery season. they also often have amore muscular neck. Other than a fairly new and inexperienced, any button buck shot by an archer is either intentional or an act of indifference. I'll let the other archers speak for them selves bu they're in no danger near me
Sorry you took my words personally. It wasnt meant quite the way It seems you took it. I said difficult not impossible. the point that I was trying to make is that there are other signs other than those nubs on the head. Button bucks are generally bigger than their sisters and we often see fawns in the family group especially in bow season, Button bucks also very often have a larger more muscular neck. I often look at that before I even have a chance to see the head. If you look at the other thread regarding passing up BB's I related a situation where I shot one with a muzzleloader.
No offense was meant to any hunter who tries their best not to shoot BB's. If my words were ill chosen, I apologize. We are all human and sometimes make mistakes. Your story proves just that. Next time you are able to observe a BB up close, look carefully at the other differences. Maybe it might help prevent the type of accident we all want to prevent.
4. I was almost out of light. I know it is hard to impart inflection and emphasis in these types of conversations, sometimes we all can be misunderstood. Thanks.
09-25-2006 | 01:32 PM
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RE: How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
If you see a lone antlerless deer, more often than not,it is a BB.
Everyone knows that BB disperse around rut time. Whether chased off by its mother or a buck, after its mother, there are many lone Button bucks walking around all alone in the fall.
Does are usually in the company of fawns or the previous years doe fawn. I rarely see a doe by itself.
When ever you see a lone antlerless deer, check it closely.
Another thing to look for is the rounded head of a doe fawn. On button bucks, it is harder to see the ear butts. The top of their head has a wide flat appearence compared to the rounded head of a doe fawn.
Everyone knows that BB disperse around rut time. Whether chased off by its mother or a buck, after its mother, there are many lone Button bucks walking around all alone in the fall.
Does are usually in the company of fawns or the previous years doe fawn. I rarely see a doe by itself.
When ever you see a lone antlerless deer, check it closely.
Another thing to look for is the rounded head of a doe fawn. On button bucks, it is harder to see the ear butts. The top of their head has a wide flat appearence compared to the rounded head of a doe fawn.
09-25-2006 | 02:24 PM
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RE: How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
The way I see it is I don't shoot BBs merely because they're small. Heck, I don't shoot any small deer in archery. I don't care if it's a 50 year old midget deer. I ain't waisting my tag on 30 pounds of meat but that's just me. If Joe Blow hunter on the next ridge over wants to whack a BB then so be it. Granted, the thought enters my mind that that BB may have been a decent buck 4 years later but then again I'm not the one who drove to the store andpaid the 60 or so bucks for his license and spent the 6 bucks for the tag in that BBs ear. I don't really like to see BBs shot in archery but then again I don't get upset with those people that shoot em' They're hunters just like me and they're the only ones who can decide to pull the trigger or not.
09-25-2006 | 02:24 PM
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RE: How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
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Everyone knows that BB disperse around rut time.
Everyone knows that BB disperse around rut time.
I was just duped that time. It was the only BB I ever took.
09-25-2006 | 07:24 PM
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RE: How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
Wind,
I think you have hit the top 3-4 ways to distingush a BB from a Doe.
Look at the head. Doe = dome/round/bowl shape with longer jaw bone.
BB/buck fawn = flatter head with shorter stubby jaw.
BB may very well travel alone - or - be the 1st one to pop his dumb head out of the woods or bush(2 red flags).
He's the Dumbest Chunk of the bunch = probable BB.
We have Jan season where deer start to yard up.BB's and Buck Fawns can be any where in bunch but usually the 1st one on the scene.
I've seen some pretty big BB's in Jan.
Matter of fact I shot one about 5 yrs ago in late Jan because I didn't think a BB could so big. Wrong!! It was the 1st and biggest to walk out of woods.Screwed up! It takes patience and a little time to make the call but that ole BB or spike can be a nice deer in a couple years.
I think you have hit the top 3-4 ways to distingush a BB from a Doe.
Look at the head. Doe = dome/round/bowl shape with longer jaw bone.
BB/buck fawn = flatter head with shorter stubby jaw.
BB may very well travel alone - or - be the 1st one to pop his dumb head out of the woods or bush(2 red flags).
He's the Dumbest Chunk of the bunch = probable BB.
We have Jan season where deer start to yard up.BB's and Buck Fawns can be any where in bunch but usually the 1st one on the scene.
I've seen some pretty big BB's in Jan.
Matter of fact I shot one about 5 yrs ago in late Jan because I didn't think a BB could so big. Wrong!! It was the 1st and biggest to walk out of woods.Screwed up! It takes patience and a little time to make the call but that ole BB or spike can be a nice deer in a couple years.
09-25-2006 | 07:24 PM
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RE: How many Archers will plege to pass on BB?
No offense and not meant towards you Dumb Bass....
I find it very easy to distinquish a doe from a fawn. There's no comparison in facial structure/nose etc....it is slightly harder to distinquish a button from a faw doe however with archery gear, the closeness makes it possible.
I will not shoot a button buck but then again, I haven't bought a doe tag in years and the years previous I did buy a doe tag, I decided not to shoot a doe anyway.
I hope all of ya'll with doe tags don't complain about lack of deer.
I find it very easy to distinquish a doe from a fawn. There's no comparison in facial structure/nose etc....it is slightly harder to distinquish a button from a faw doe however with archery gear, the closeness makes it possible.
I will not shoot a button buck but then again, I haven't bought a doe tag in years and the years previous I did buy a doe tag, I decided not to shoot a doe anyway.
I hope all of ya'll with doe tags don't complain about lack of deer.
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