I think you're missing my point.A truly wild cougar would most likely avoid people and wouldrarely beseen.The guys I know in Colorado never see them and they live where there's lot's of them.Why do people see them all over Clinton county even though there's no proof they exist?

Once again,I'm not saying they can't be here.I just haven't seen any evidence to say that they are.The tracksnear State collegeseem promising.I'm interested to see where this goes.

If you guys have followed these cougar post long enough you'll know that I have posted my opinions and personal experiences on here before. Whether you believe there are 1 or 2 mt lions running around, a breeding population, or the DEC/PGC stocked them it doesn't realy matter until someone proves it.

I for one believe there is some mt lions in WNY and probably in PA too. My brother saw one in Delevan, NY - I found tracks and heard what I believe to be a Mt. Lion in West Valley NY - I called the DEC about the tracks and they wouldn't even send anyone to check them out.

I just recieved a bunch of pics from my uncle in Idaho though that I need to post as soon as I get a chance that show the mt lions that he has gotten with his bow and there are a few really cool pics of him taking a picture of the lion while it is tree'd about 15 feet from the lion.

What is the best way to post a pic that is not from a digital camera. I can scan then in as a jpeg but it wont let me post them normally - it tells me that the file size it too big?

My nephew seen one a month or so ago in Western Md. Crossing a road

I won't get into wetherwild cougarsexist or not in PA.

I will saythis though, andwith all duerespect.To think any state agencystocked cougars and coyotes w/o documentation is simply wrong. Indiginous or not, any stocked animal has tobe approvedby law and an impactstudy and report must be conducted before any action is taken.We have hadcoyotes along in the east for over 50 years. In MA, they have been documented since the 1950's. My father used to see allot ofcoyotes in VT in the 50's and 60's while deer hunting.Yotes have been migrating into the east for a long time. And if we had them in MA in 1950's, I am sure you had a fewin PA by then or sooner. No game dept has anything to gainby stocking coyotes. It would be like shooting themselves in the foot.

Are yotes much more prevelantnow in the east?? You bet, and thats probably why you are seeing more of them. Your experiences in the woods can be a good measure of an animals local population, but in no way confirms where the animal origianted from.

Sproulman, have you ever seen a bobcat in the wild?

Don't EVEN go there, Sylvan! Even good Christian folks like a good laugh every once in awhile! Practical joking is not a sin!

Whew!

I know they are here in Northeast PA cause I seen a dead one on the side of Route 80 east near the Poconos...I moved out this way about six months ago from Western PA and if I would have known the Mountain Lion "thing" was such a debate then I would have picked that cat up off the road. I would estimate the cat at about 70-80lbs. My supervisor was following me in his car and he seen it too. They are here!

I think all you doubters should take a look at the site that ELKCRAZY8 provided. Read it. You guys say there are no panthers here, well it seems like these guys on this site will beg to differ. http://www.easterncougar.org/6thworkshop.htm

If the guys at easterncougar.org know the truth, what's up with the game comission and PSU. Do you think they are just incompetent or are trying to hide something?