I can understand not caring about it but with all the evidence that proves their existence why do they go out of their way to keep it quiet and out and out say there isNO evidence. Sproulman is right, it is sad...strange too... like I said before, they must know the truth so why not just admit it? What harm would it do to anybody to just admit what most hunters already know anyway?

btw, thanks for the explination of the West Virginial Abagoochee. Never heard of that one before. Thought it might be another name for big foot which of course has been sighted many times in PA.

DougE,
Don't you think it makes perfect sense? Think about it. Colorado is a much bigger state than PA with a lot less people. The mountains are also much bigger and more remote. Given more people and less hiding places it shouldn't be suprising that more are sighted in PA.

hmmmmm

still no picture? and did I actually read earlier that someone thinks the PGC stocked hawks and ladybugs too?????

Hey, I posted several pictures! You guys just don't believe they prove anything. You won't accept the truth when its right in front of you. Soon livbucks will post more irrefutable evidence!

Sorry Sylvan,I didn't see your pictures.... That really is good evidence, my mind is made up.

OK, i have sat back and watched this long enough. All of you cougar beleivers, and I will say that I beleive that there may be a few lurking around the state and other areas. All of you are shooting your own selves in the foot by trying to press the issue and make the state and or governmentadmitthese animals being there.

Ok, now when we get the state to admit what you saw was in fact a cougar and that they do exist in the wild. What happens now? The eastern cougar has been deemed possibly extinct, and the proof that they are roaming now brings in the Feds with all their knowledge and the ever popular greeinies and Peta marching right behind them.

Now according to the experts, it will be hard to tell if there are actually genetic differences between the 2 species, if there are two species indeed. But hey, we better protect them just in case, and god forbid don't shoot one. The state will be forced by the feds to alter seasons, close down areas etc. etc. etc. And when populations get to be too many the state WILL NOT be able to shoot even the problem ones because of federal protection. It will take about 2-3 years of battling lawsuits from the greenies before the state could even think of killing a dangerous cat without any recourse in the matter.

IMHO I beleive that you all are trying to pry the lid off pandoras box. I have seen it here in Idaho with the wolves. I saw a wolf here before all the wolf hoopla, I know what I saw was a wolf at the time. I was told that I saw a coyote. I told the Biologist B.S. and it was left at that. The feds stepped in and left a bunch of stray dogs behind. Now the state is crawling with these fleebags and we have to fight to be able to get rid of some. Elk populations are dangerously low in some areas, and I would not even think of archery hunting anymore without a side arm. Myself and others have had wolves circling us while cow calling. Not a pleasant thing to go through.

I have a hard time beleiving any pictures that I see anywhere on the internet, that is why I will almost always question pictures presented onany topic. I do however beleive that it just may be possible that a few cats could be roaming the north east. That is enough for me.

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it!!!!!

Very well said Elkcrazy8 !! As far as all you Pa. boys go have any of you picked up a newspaper latley? I will link a few for you. As far as I am concerned I enjoy being told these are escaped pets, that takes that cat right off the Endangered species list!

http://trackincats.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=138&sid=f8522614fe4e103cb5b15d 8cd836df02

Here is another one for you, Part one and two, also includes a place to make comments.....

http://trackincats.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=155&sid=4d0d74562578da3c62435e 6adc2e1933

Cougardaville, thanks for the links, that makes for some interesting reading. If in fact that was the cougar that was shot in 1969, it was a youngster with a female. If this is the case, the cats were from a breeding pair at the time.

I always have to click on these threads and see what is being said. I cut my teeth on hunting in New York and PA, and every year it seemed that someone had something to say on this issue.

After moving to ID,(known big cat country) I have seen several in the wild and there is nothing like it. I missed one with my bow a few years back, the following year I went back to generally the same area on a rifle hunt for deerand had a run in with a 7 foot 2 inch female. I didn't want to kill her even though I had a tag, because I have a fettish for takingpredators with my bow and not a rifle. But she displayed agressive actions and I felt unconfortable with her a meer 15 feet from me. So I did the duty and she now hangs on my wall as a rug.

These animals are everything that the wilds are all about. I can't wait til the next time I see one again.

very good info on pa. cougars.i hear today that someone interviewd people in clinton county on the cougars.some did not want to tell their story because they did not want made fun of, like some do on here.thats why if we dont agree that all of us are telling truth, dont make fun of ones that are and you may disagree. we all have our opinions on here,lets just respect the ones that did see a cougar.it hurts their feeling and may keep some from reporting what they saw.i know i was laughed at to and made to feel i did not seeCOUGAR.even the PGC was not interested enough to come out and investigate it back in 1993. tourism that these cougars could bring into our areas here in state of pa. is unreal .this could bring in a lot of tourist dollars to our areas along with elk.