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jcchartboy 01-21-2006 02:09 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 
Yet another biologist/veterinarian pointing out the known differences between baiting and foodplots....I think the last statement sums this all up best..."In fact, in Michigan we recommend food plots…in the bovine TB area where it is illegal to feed or bait deer," Schmitt said.


Maybe food plots are grown for the same reason, but wildlife biologists don’t conclude these plots pose the same potential for spreading disease. Steve Schmitt, veterinarian with the Michigan Dept. of Natural Resources compared the disease potential in food plots and bait piles. Food plots attract deer to a larger area than does a bait pile. There’s less nose-to-nose contact in a food plot. Once the food is eaten, no more is grown until the next year. Bait piles, on the other hand, can be replenished daily for months." In my opinion, the risk of transmitting disease is greater from bait piles or feed piles than from food plots. In fact, in Michigan we recommend food plots…in the bovine TB area where it is illegal to feed or bait deer," Schmitt said

stretchhunts 01-21-2006 04:10 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

ORIGINAL: jcchartboy

Yet another biologist/veterinarian pointing out the known differences between baiting and foodplots....I think the last statement sums this all up best..."In fact, in Michigan we recommend food plots…in the bovine TB area where it is illegal to feed or bait deer," Schmitt said.


Maybe food plots are grown for the same reason, but wildlife biologists don’t conclude these plots pose the same potential for spreading disease. Steve Schmitt, veterinarian with the Michigan Dept. of Natural Resources compared the disease potential in food plots and bait piles. Food plots attract deer to a larger area than does a bait pile. There’s less nose-to-nose contact in a food plot. Once the food is eaten, no more is grown until the next year. Bait piles, on the other hand, can be replenished daily for months." In my opinion, the risk of transmitting disease is greater from bait piles or feed piles than from food plots. In fact, in Michigan we recommend food plots…in the bovine TB area where it is illegal to feed or bait deer," Schmitt said


So wouldn`t that mean food plots are illegal in that area. It says illegal to feed or bait deer but we recommened food plots. Things that make me go hummmmmmmm

jcchartboy 01-21-2006 04:31 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

So wouldn`t that mean food plots are illegal in that area. It says illegal to feed or bait deer but we recommened food plots. Things that make me go hummmmmmmm
Thanks for pointing this out once again Stretch...NO...foodplots are perfectly legal....

Why...because although we use the word food in the term food plots, biologists and game departements know that their effects on wildlife have far different impacts than manually feedingor baiting deer.

(Of course I could see where a person could try to twist the language to fit your description. However a reasonable person,(and a game warden/judge) would see clear through that argument.;))

stretchhunts 01-22-2006 12:59 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

ORIGINAL: jcchartboy
Why...because although we use the word food in the term food plots, biologists and game departements know that their effects on wildlife have far different impacts than manually feedingor baiting deer.

(Of course I could see where a person could try to twist the language to fit your description. However a reasonable person,(and a game warden/judge) would see clear through that argument.;))
My description?Where you come up with that one? So food plots don`t FEED Deer? so it states in the quote that it`s illegal to feed or bait deer. So now there is a difference between feeding deer and food plots. Im just confused here. Baiting would be putting out apples, corn etc? What would feeding them be? planting corn/soybeans etc? just wondering JC;):D

bawanajim 01-22-2006 05:16 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

ORIGINAL: stretchhunts


ORIGINAL: jcchartboy

Yet another biologist/veterinarian pointing out the known differences between baiting and foodplots....I think the last statement sums this all up best..."In fact, in Michigan we recommend food plots…in the bovine TB area where it is illegal to feed or bait deer," Schmitt said.


Maybe food plots are grown for the same reason, but wildlife biologists don’t conclude these plots pose the same potential for spreading disease. Steve Schmitt, veterinarian with the Michigan Dept. of Natural Resources compared the disease potential in food plots and bait piles. Food plots attract deer to a larger area than does a bait pile. There’s less nose-to-nose contact in a food plot. Once the food is eaten, no more is grown until the next year. Bait piles, on the other hand, can be replenished daily for months." In my opinion, the risk of transmitting disease is greater from bait piles or feed piles than from food plots. In fact, in Michigan we recommend food plots…in the bovine TB area where it is illegal to feed or bait deer," Schmitt said


So wouldn`t that mean food plots are illegal in that area. It says illegal to feed or bait deer but we recommened food plots. Things that make me go hummmmmmmm
I would think the only thing it would take to make you go hummmmmmmmmm ,would be a mirror.

Just because you don,t have the land or ability to plant food plots don't rag on the ones that do!!!!!!![:o]

jcchartboy 01-22-2006 06:10 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

BawanaJIm said:
Just because you don,t have the land or ability to plant food plots don't rag on the ones that do!!!!!!![:o]
Jim I might suggest you read this thread before you post on it....Stretch has the land, the abilty, and does plant food plots....[:-]

He is simply playing devils advocate to keep the debate interesting...:D

jcchartboy 01-22-2006 06:18 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

ORIGINAL: stretchhunts
What would feeding them be? planting corn/soybeans etc? just wondering JC;):D
Cmon Stretch, I thought for sure you knew this one...assumingthe state allows baiting and feeding, here are the definitions...(this one specific to Michigan I believe)

"Baiting" is the practice of placing piles of foods that deer favor near hunting blinds and stands. Hunters who bait hope to draw-in deer within close shooting range. By baiting deer over a period of time, they expect to improve their chances of getting a closer shot during legal hunting seasons. State law usuallylimits the volume, content, location and times when baits can be legally placed for white-tailed deer.

"Feeding" is different, as the aim is just to watch wildlife by providing supplements to natural foods. State law does not regulate or limit the foods, locations or timing when wildlife feeding can occur.

stretchhunts 01-22-2006 08:25 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

I would think the only thing it would take to make you go hummmmmmmmmm ,would be a mirror.

Just because you don,t have the land or ability to plant food plots don't rag on the ones that do!!!!!!![:o]

LMFAO we got a comedian on our hands. I always look in the mirror at the gym, and do say HUMMMMMMMM ( i look dam good)GOOD come back. READ THE ABOVE POSTS. I DO HAVE THE LAND AND DO PLANT PLOTS,DUH.Just trying to keep the debate going. JC has great points but I like to debate with him.



Leverdude 01-23-2006 04:13 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 
I dont see much of a difference myself. A guy hunting near crop fields is taking advantage of a deers stomach the same as a guy throwing out some corn. The crop field might benefit wildlife more than the corn pile but theyre both there to bring in deer.
Some folks just dont live in places where a food plot is possible either because of property sizes or types or they dont own land. I'm one. Most of my bowhunting is residential & while I dont bait everywhere I'll do it where it seems likely to pan out. It must be nice to be able to place a stand anywhere you want in an area but not everyones got it like that.
If your adamantly against baiting you ought not hunt near crop fields IMHO.
That said, if its legal I dont give a rats patootie what someone else does. ;)

jcchartboy 01-23-2006 04:46 PM

RE: Baiting vs. Planting Deer Feed - what's The Difference?
 

Some folks just dont live in places where a food plot is possible either because of property sizes or types or they dont own land. I'm one. Most of my bowhunting is residential
So you are saying the deer don't live and eat natururally where you hunt? Is baiting required to make them come to the land you hunt?
I don't understand why hunting small pieces of land would necessitate baiting?
I hunt residential areas and I have never needed to use foodplots or baiting? I don't see the connection....(BTW....the buck in my avatar was taken in a strip of land between three house that is measured in hundreds of feet).


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