wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

i am curious if anyone knows where 3N is??? i just got me a doe tag from someone who is not goin to use it and i am not sure where that is. i probably will not use it either but i am curious

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dfwmr/wildlife/wmunits.html

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Not upstate -Dutchess county

Charlie

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

well chasam60 i would hate to say that is upstate for me i am on long island

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

It's not Dutchess county. It is Putnam county.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

I guess it's all a matter of where you are standing.Can you get permits for any of the watershed property? We have some good hunting "up state" around Cannonsville and Pepacton Resevoirs.It's kind of a pain though.Between the DEC officers,and the Waterboard officers,you may get checked often.A friend of mine got checked 6 times in one day,twice by the same guy.

Charlie

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dfwmr/wildlife/wmunits.htmlIt's parts of both .

Charlie

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Chasam,

As you mentioned geographically it does include some land from Dutchess.

However, the lowers portions of Dutchess are much different in terms of access and opportunity than most of the rest of the county.

I think it is safe to generically call 3n Putnam...

3F is Dutchess proper.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Most of it is putnam, but your wasteing your time. You'll need a treestand to hunt anything arround here or know someone.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Im glad to hear your not going to use your doe tag, we dont need anymore hunters in my county, mostof it is private property and you need to know someone to hunt here welp looks like theresmore deer for me and my hunting buddies.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Yeah i second that. Though some bad hunters from LI would be nice so i can get the big ones in the swamp after you scare everything in there. And i doubt you know where they go...

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

yeah like i said i got it from a friend for setting up his computer and i also got a 3m that i will be using. OH and i must say not all of us from long island are bad hunters.Although there a a lot of them. my buddy had family in that area of 3n i just found out but i am not driving all the way there just to use a doe tag i think i am goin to give it to him...
Everyone has givin me doe tags either for 3m or 3n and for long island just for setting their computers up. the person who gave me the 3n hunts in barryville. why he got 3n i am still trying to figure that out

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Here is a good piece of public land in 3n...


West Branch Headwaters unit

With 561 prime acres for hunting, this unit provides deer hunters with a great hunting opportunity (only bow, shotgun and muzzleloaders are allowed in their respective seasons in Putnam County).
West Branch Headwaters unit is located at the south tip of Sagamore Lake and is part of WMU 3N. Access this unit from Route 301, which runs east-west through Putnam County.
There are three very good DEP pull-offs along Route 301 that allow limited parking. All provide varying degrees of trail access into the unit. There are numerous low elevation areas that hold swampy water. Hunt in and around the fringe areas that surround these swampy locations. This is a great area to locate places where deer will funnel in and out of these watery areas, going from food sources and back to their secure areas.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Its too late to just show up and hunt, too much dunb luck. Should have been scouted a long while ago...

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Filling a Doe tag in that area of the state does not require a great deal of scouting. This is especially true during the shotgun season on public land where other hunters are constantly effecting the deers natural patterns.

A simple topographic map will point out the areas that deer are most likely to move towards when under hunting pressure. A few hours at home with the map shouldhave you on the right track regardless of whether you get the time to visit the property before your hunt.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

I know exactly where that is, i drive past it all the time. There is so much land there if you just go on there and try to hunt i guarantee you'll get lost without a general understanding of the area. Too much land to just show up and hunt. Just because there are a lot of deer in the area doesnt mean you're going to get one anyway. Thats why they call it Huntin'

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Just because you have a topo map doesn't mean you know where they are active. And when was the last update on a map arround that area? You've got to go out look for rubs and scrapes trails and about 1,000 other signs if you want to have a shot on a good deer. Anyone can go out wait in one spot long enough for a deer. He'll be lost in 20 minutes and prob piss off alot of other hunters that did put in there time. Just because you see it on paper doesn't mean a hunter that deserves it isn't sitting in that spot.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

It is very easy to discern prime deer habitat in that area from a topographic, including natural funnels, travel corridors, and likely bedding areas.

Unless I missed an ice age or two, topographic maps of undeveloped land in NY will not have any majorchanges at all regardless of how old they are.

What would make either hunter more or less deserving? Common courtesy concerning hunting public land should be the deciding factor. Basically it would come down to who arrived there first.

I am sure this member is well aware he is going hunting, not necessarily shooting. There is no reason why he should not be able to enjoy hunting state land if he is properly prepared and licensed.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

i didnt mean to cause a heated discushing i was just curious on where it was. Thats all..

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

I like a good heated discussion, it makes things interesting and its all in good fun.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Yeah you may have missed an ice age or 2... If you know anything about 3n you'd know that is is one of the most develored pieces of land in ny. Not to mention durring the rut funnels dont meanjack to a buck. They go where they want and thats when going in person to scout pays off. Not this "I'm lazy reading a map bull." Scouting a map is to narrow down your time in the field not to get rid of it. You really don't know what your talking about.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

It seemsyou just don't want other hunters in "your" area.

That's what it seems like he's saying,not very friendly is it?[:'(]

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

I NOTICED YOU THINK EVERYONE FROM LONG ISLAND ARE BAD HUNTERS.IVE BEEN HUNTING IN DUTCHESS COUNTY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.I SAW A LOT OF YOU WOOD CHUCKS EMPTY YOUR SHOT GUNS ON A GROUP OF DEER AND NOT HIT ONE.ALSO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MOST OF YOU HOW LIVE THERE DONT BOTHER TO GET LICENSES,OR IF YOU DO GET THEM SHOOT AS MANY DEER AS YOU WANT AND DONT REGISTER ONE.ANOTHER THING IS YOU GUYS WILL SHOOT ANYTHING THAT MOVES.PORR DEER DONT EVEN GET A CHANCE TO GROW UP TO GET A RACK,YOU SHOT THEM WITH THE SPOTS STILL ON THEM.ONE LAST THING A LOT OF THE LAND IN THAT AREA IS OWNED BY A LOT OF LONG ISLAND PEOPLE,AND ALSO CITY PEOPLE AS YOU CALL THEM.BAD HUNTERS ARE BAD HUNTERS AND SHOULDNT MATTER WHERE THY COME FROM,WE ARE ALSO VERY NICE PEOPLE IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT.AND BY THE WAY KNOW A LOT OF REALLY NICE PEOPLE FROM DUTCHESS AND PUTNAM.

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

In fact you are correct LI hunters dont belong in 3n but just because the land is being quickly developed doesn't mean there still arn't lots of great hunting spots. Building arround an area forces deer to do many things that a map alone will not show you. And if anything there is absolutly no way that the rut is over the first week of shotgun season. If you think that you should stop hunting... Are you even from 3n??

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Here is my exact statement...
Your Reply..
The first week of shotgun season this year runs from Nov 19-26. You are saying that you are expecting to see heavy rutting activity after Nov 27?

Here are the facts as stated by noted deer experts Charles Alsheimer, Dick Bernier and Wayne Laroche.

The rut generally last from 12-14 days in that area and is usually centered around November 12-15, or as some people believe around the second full moon after the fall equinox. This year that day is Nov 16. That indicates that 70-80% of all does will likely be bred between Nov 9th and the Nov 23rd at the latest.

That means that the peak of the rut will likely be over by the first week of shotgun season.A hunter will in fact bevery unlikely to see heavy rutting activity after the that time.

I am surprised that you would believe otherwise...when do you think the peak of the rut occurs?

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

Another supporting articleconcerning the rut this time from Deerhunting.net

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

jcc,
Your kidding me! Is this where you get your info on rutting activity - web sites. Do YOU actually hunt?

If you did hunt you might know that in FACT the rut may carry over into December and Jan depending on deer density and buck/doe ratios in any given area.

Your confrontational argumentitive posts are starting to annoy me and everyone else[:'(]

RE: wmu 3N in upstate ny
 

AJ,

PM SENT...

You know we are not talking about "any given area" and we are not discussing "may carry over" we are talking about a specific wildlife management unit in a specific state, and we are talking about "heavy rutting activity"

"heavy rutting activity" as you know is the time period in which the majority (60-80%),of deer are engagingin breeding activities.



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I have no further interest in carrying on this conversation, however if you do I would like to know when you believe heavy rutting activity occurs in Putnum county NY.