Rifles in bad hands
09-28-2005, 08:45 AM
#42
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,137
RE: Rifles in bad hands
Lets see, how many bowhunters out there would support "bow only"
Probably quite a few. Duh
Probably quite a few. Duh
I think you'll find very few bowhunters that only hunt with the bow,most are multiple weapon hunters.I also don't think you'll find as many bow hunters with your attitude.
09-28-2005, 09:29 AM
#43
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 604
RE: Rifles in bad hands
I think Quicksilver is just posting that crap to get a rise out of everyone. I dont know if he is sincere in his position but something tells me he is getting a kick out of getting you all riled up.
If he is sincere then take comfort that there is only one of him.
If he is sincere then take comfort that there is only one of him.
09-28-2005, 02:27 PM
#46
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SW PA USA
Posts: 7,220
RE: Rifles in bad hands
Trolling is a possibility; if so hopefully the moderator takes notice.
09-28-2005, 03:18 PM
#47
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,716
RE: Rifles in bad hands
Contrary to what you gentlemen may believe, my posts aren't noticeably different. I've always stood by the proposition that there are too many hunters in the woods that don't belong there and expressed concern about states thathave no hunting age restrictions. The debate hasn't flared up until now. Further, I've never said that I was not a liberal democrat.
In sum, I really don't support any rules that would allow more dangerous weapons into the woods, and I surely don't support any rules that loosen the restrictions on who hunts. Plain and simple - both serve to make hunting markedly more dangerous. You can express your dissatisfaction, block my posts (if you so fervently disagree), oroffer evidence to the contrary.You can even tattle to the moderators, I really don't care, although I do believe that it's a quite childish approach to educated debate.
I've read volumes on these topics, and even gone so far as to draft articles, editorialsandadvisoryopinionsfor reputable hunting periodicals and legislatorsregarding the same, and have very good reasons to support my position, no matter how unpopular you may believe that it is. Further, my position is not only supported by historic data, but is takenby many other hunters, conservationists, law makers and law enforcement officials.Take it as you may, but my position remains unchanged.
I've provided you each withan opportunity to explain to me why semiautomatic weapons are necessary and proper for whitetail hunting in populated areas, and you have not done so. Instead, you've called into question my ethics, my political ideology and finally my motives for visiting this site.
I've agreed to disagree, but you gentlemencan't let it go, and instead turnthis into a publicdefamation contest and continue to beat the dead horse with this silly "Anti-something witch-hunt". With all due respect, sirs, you are skating on very thin ice. I am also expressing my discontent with the moderators for allowing this thread to continue, as it has become, as noted above, nothing more than a mudslinging match.
If a moderator did email you personally, Please forward that PM to me, as I would like to have a word with him/her, whereby we can discuss this matter further.
Moderator: Please delete this thread to save all parties involved any further embarrassment. I don't foresee any value in any of the posts to come.
In sum, I really don't support any rules that would allow more dangerous weapons into the woods, and I surely don't support any rules that loosen the restrictions on who hunts. Plain and simple - both serve to make hunting markedly more dangerous. You can express your dissatisfaction, block my posts (if you so fervently disagree), oroffer evidence to the contrary.You can even tattle to the moderators, I really don't care, although I do believe that it's a quite childish approach to educated debate.
I've read volumes on these topics, and even gone so far as to draft articles, editorialsandadvisoryopinionsfor reputable hunting periodicals and legislatorsregarding the same, and have very good reasons to support my position, no matter how unpopular you may believe that it is. Further, my position is not only supported by historic data, but is takenby many other hunters, conservationists, law makers and law enforcement officials.Take it as you may, but my position remains unchanged.
I've provided you each withan opportunity to explain to me why semiautomatic weapons are necessary and proper for whitetail hunting in populated areas, and you have not done so. Instead, you've called into question my ethics, my political ideology and finally my motives for visiting this site.
I've agreed to disagree, but you gentlemencan't let it go, and instead turnthis into a publicdefamation contest and continue to beat the dead horse with this silly "Anti-something witch-hunt". With all due respect, sirs, you are skating on very thin ice. I am also expressing my discontent with the moderators for allowing this thread to continue, as it has become, as noted above, nothing more than a mudslinging match.
If a moderator did email you personally, Please forward that PM to me, as I would like to have a word with him/her, whereby we can discuss this matter further.
Moderator: Please delete this thread to save all parties involved any further embarrassment. I don't foresee any value in any of the posts to come.
09-28-2005, 07:21 PM
#48
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Slower Lower Delaware 1st State
Posts: 1,776
RE: Rifles in bad hands
Quick,
I'm will not delete this thread just because your taken some heat that you opened the door on. You make some very valid points but your comments
"If you have to regulate everybody to reign in that narrow sect of the population then thats the reasonable way".
"I'd support Bow Only"
opened the door for further comment. Take the heat or leave the kitchen.
The fact you've read volumes on these topics,drafted articles,editorials,
and advisory opinions for reputable hunting periodicals and legislators - only says you have some strong opinions and conviction on the subject matter. I/we can respect that to a point.
I simply offer you this - Why shouldn't semi auto's be allowed?
What overwhelming evidence do you offer to the contrary?
We use semi auto shotguns in Delaware.
In the correct hands a pump can be as deadly as a semi auto.
Maybe we should legislate "Single Shot Only" in every state to "reign in the narrow sect".
I'm will not delete this thread just because your taken some heat that you opened the door on. You make some very valid points but your comments
"If you have to regulate everybody to reign in that narrow sect of the population then thats the reasonable way".
"I'd support Bow Only"
opened the door for further comment. Take the heat or leave the kitchen.
The fact you've read volumes on these topics,drafted articles,editorials,
and advisory opinions for reputable hunting periodicals and legislators - only says you have some strong opinions and conviction on the subject matter. I/we can respect that to a point.
I simply offer you this - Why shouldn't semi auto's be allowed?
What overwhelming evidence do you offer to the contrary?
We use semi auto shotguns in Delaware.
In the correct hands a pump can be as deadly as a semi auto.
Maybe we should legislate "Single Shot Only" in every state to "reign in the narrow sect".
09-28-2005, 07:36 PM
#49
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,137
RE: Rifles in bad hands
I have been hunting with a semi auto Berretta 12 ga. for about 12 years and the have taken more then one shot about three times.
It allowed me not to have to drop the gun to pump and put another shot in the kill zone.
It allowed me not to have to drop the gun to pump and put another shot in the kill zone.
