Wisc. hunters being forced to put name on treestands
 

Some how the proposal to force us to put our names and address on our treestands in 1 inch square letters got passed. Who in the **&@!$#%@ would of possibly voted for such a stupid law???? I would like to think hunters are smarter than that? It must of been the cat lovers and anti-hunters that we encouraged to come to our meetings by proposeing cats as a small game animal? Consider the facts guys (and gals)
Ok, I permanently put my name on my treestand IN ONE INCH SQUARE LETTERING, as told by law. Now, I am the only one who can use that stand, no one but the named person, can be in the named stand. Or handle it. So every person in my hunting party has to have there own climber, & there own portable.
Lone Wolf climber = $300. portable $180. Ok so now I have to spend $480 bucks on each of my three kids so they can hunt public land??? What if a relitive or freind comes to viset and hunt from out of state? He has to mark up his stands? He can't use mine? What a bunch of CRAP! What about guides and outfitters who use these lands? Each cliant has to bring his own stand and mark it up before hunting? So, the reason we need this law, we are told, is so that law breakers who leave there stands in the woods over night can be cuaght by reading there name and address off of the stand. IF THEY ARE LAW BREAKERS... YOU THINK THEY WILL FOLLOW THIS LAW????????????? Ok, now PLEASE, show me where I can fit the following on my lone wolf stands in 1 inch square letters as prescribed by our SO CALLED freinds the WDNR:
DANIEL INFALT N3374 ROME OAK HILL ROAD HELLENVILLE WI 53137

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Lol!! Thats gotta kinda suck for you guys. That is a pretty dumb law.

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Without a doubt, that is one of the stupidest things I ever heard! About all you can do now is gather up all your friends, both hunting and non-hunting, and start sending letters, e-mails, phone calls, etc. Don't give them a minutes peace; I especially like phone calls because it takes time out of their day and fills up the voicemail box. Maybe you can get it changed back.

Hate to see that happen, because it gives other states ideas, too. I'll contact my brother in Wisconsin Rapids and have him contact his friends. BTW, his son is coming deer hunting with me this fall (first time hunting) in MN and is trying to borrow a stand, so I guess we'll see a name and address on it.

Good luck!

Bruce

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The proposed law doesn't allow for a removeable /switchable nameplate ?
I would think that such a nameplate would satisfy the legal requirement and also allow legal multiple use of the stand , just change the nameplate for a different user each day . Indiana has mandated having the hunter's name and address on non-portable stands erected on public land for years , it's really not a big deal .

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Read below, the question from the meeting. Where did you get the information as to the letter size and the fact that you are the only one that can hunt that stand. First, you can use your DNR # which will take no space at all and size did not seem to matter. Second, all they want is a way to contact the owner of the stand so they won't have to wait in the woods for the owner to return to give him his ticket. Third, anyone from your party can use the stand as long as it has the owners info on it. This is how the warden explained it to our group. I think its a good thing. I also have the vote total. 6,237 for and 3,174 against. Also,I don't think there were 6,000+ cat lover at the meetings.

33. Do you support requiring portable tree stands that are placed on state land or land that is under the management of the department to be identified with the owners name and address or their DNR customer identification number? 6,237
3,174

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I believe this is correct.

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When it was brought up at my meeting they said it would 1 inch letters that could be read from the ground by the warden. Someone asked if the stand would be able to be used by another person. The Warden said NO.
I like the idea someone had about useing nameplates. However, People will still be finding stands in the woods without name and address. I would NEVER put my DNR number on anything an anti could get ahold of. Only us law biding hunters are being punished.[:'(]

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http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/du...l/11294406.htm

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This is only a requirement for stands that are left on public land for any length of time, which by the way is against the law anyway. You will not be required to put your full name and address on the stand if you put your DNR customer # on the stand. This requirement is to deter hunters from assuming squaters rights to a particular piece of public hunting land that they feel since they have hunted there for 10 years in a row that you can't hunt in the same area. And also in the possible recovery of stolen stands which is a major problem. Yea, it sucks but what do you do, that is the price you pay for hunting on public land and putting trust in your fellow hunters. 99% of hunters are ethecal enough to move on when they notice a hunter in a particular area, but that other 1% you would like to string up by their testicles. [:-]

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It is illeagal to leave your stand in the woods overnight in Wisconsin. That law is not proposed to change. This law is to stop the law breakers who leave there stands in the woods over night unatendid from breaking the law... Make sense? Its like making bullets illeagle to possess in stores becuase robbers are useing loaded guns. The law breakers are still going to break the law. And there is already a law on the books to address the problem. It is only going to hurt guys like me who follow the rules. I guide several groups of nonresidents on the public lands in Wisc. They hunt for 2 to 5 days... They need to have a name tag made? STUPID LAW! I have relitives who hunt when they come up to viset, they need there nams on there climbing stands that you bring down with you when you come out of it after the hunt? STUPID LAW! 1INCH Square letters and numbers? My stand has 3/4 high rungs. STUPID LAW!

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You can leave your stand out as long as it isn't state property, national forests are o.k.. They must not hurt the tree and must be taken down after season.;)

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I hunt some public land that they used to make you put your name on the stands. They changed that over to a number that t he DNR would be the only ones to look up the person owning the stand. They did this because the Anti's where getting the names off peoples stands and causing problems.

Putting a # on there is no big deal I just use a marker, or duct tape with my # on it.


Don

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You are not getting the picture. The only stands that require the DNR customer # are the ones left out over night on public or state owned land. You are not required to put this on a stand that you carry in and out with you on a daily basis. Where in the proposal does it state that the lettering must be 1" No sense wasting your energy on this, it's a done deal.

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Konk,
Obviusly, YOUR not getting it. It is illeagle to leave your stand out over night on public land. That is NOT going to change. This law will be required for anyone useing a portable stand on public land. Our Warden told me he plans on checking for the names or ID numbers at the parking lots and vehicals as you enter and exit the woods. I don't know what you have been reading??? But everything I have heard at the meeting and online, has been, lettering MUST BE AT LEAST 1 INCH SQUARE. Since you blindly support STUPID laws without reading up on them, I will print the propsal I just found doing a search.

DNR says tree stand proposal made before Wis. hunting rampage

BY ROBERT IMRIE

ASSOCIATED PRESS


WAUSAU, Wis. - State wildlife experts are asking deer hunters to endorse a new regulation that would require them to put their name on any tree stand temporarily erected on public land.

The change was under discussion months before a confrontation over a tree stand erupted into a shooting rampage that killed six deer hunters on private property in northwestern Wisconsin last fall, said Tom Van Haren, a regulations specialist for the state Department of Natural Resources.

"It doesn't deal with private land and trespassing," he said. "I don't see a connection."

Outdoor enthusiasts will vote on the change April 11 during the Wisconsin Conservation Congress spring hearings held in every county.

The change would require people erecting portable tree stands on public land to label them -- in one-inch square or larger lettering -- with the owner's name, address or DNR customer identification number.

The regulation is designed to discourage hunters from leaving the stands overnight and make it easier for wardens to enforce that law, Van Haren said.

The change is one of 74 issues people will consider at the hearings by the Conservation Congress, a citizens group that advises the Natural Resources Board on fish- and wildlife-management issues and policy. The results of the voting on proposed rules and regulations get forwarded to the Natural Resources Board, which also must approve them before they take effect.

The other issues range from banning the use of electronic decoys for turkey hunting to an advisory question asking whether the state should declare wild cats as an unprotected species so they could be shot legally.

Al Phelan, the DNR's liaison to the Conservation Congress, said Friday that none of the proposed changes was the result of the shooting rampage.

Chai Soua Vang of St. Paul, Minn., told authorities he thought he was on public land Nov. 21 when he crawled into a tree stand to continue his hunting. A confrontation occurred after an owner of the tree stand asked him to leave. Vang, a Hmong immigrant, told investigators one of the white hunters fired the first shot after taunting Vang with racial slurs, a claim two of the survivors denied, according to court records.

Vang pleaded not guilty to six counts of first-degree intentional homicide and three counts of attempted homicide. His trial is set for September.

A warden in northeastern Wisconsin proposed the new tree stand regulation, a change that has been under discussion for more than a year, Van Haren said. The decision to put it on the Conservation Congress ballot was made in September.

Having a name on tree stands makes it easier to investigate violations, he said. It saves wardens time trying to track down violators and serves as more deterrence because wardens also could cite violators for not having it properly labeled, he said.

The DNR issued 54 citations for leaving a deer stand overnight on public property in 2004 and 33 in 2003, according to Van Haren.

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I will stick my neck out here a little bit. I am the chairman for the Conservation Congress in the county I live in. Buckmstr is correct about the one inch lettering that needs to be in legible english. The media has twisted this slightly in their articles to encompass "public land". The truth is this only pertains to STATE OWNED Land and designated state managed land that a good example is slipping my mind at this point. The orgin of the came from a question posed a couple years back as a Conservation Congress advisory question. The driving force behind it was metioned before. "Squatter Rights" At least in this part of the state there are folks that perennialy slap up a stand start baiting it and never take it down throughout the whole season and sometimes leave it up year round. Which has been illegal for many years. I understand your concern Buckmstr, but if you are already following the rules in place you don't have anything to worry about because you will be removing your stand at the end of each hunting day.

Huntermag

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Bukmastr,

First of all, I did NOT support this propasal. Second - The change would require people erecting PORTABLE stands on public land to do this. At our meeting the question was asked if a climbing stand is the same as a portable. The warden stated that if you use a climber and carry it out after each hunt it would not fall under this proposal. The warden at your meeting stated otherwise. This is another gray area where it depends on the warden, which is not right.