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turkeyhunter_15 07-09-2004 11:31 PM

Earn A Buck?
 
Anyone Know If For Sure Earn A Buck Is Gonna Happen?

nub 07-10-2004 05:18 AM

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Anyone Know If For Sure Earn A Buck Is Gonna Happen?
As sure as the sun sets in the west. Depends what unit your in.

TJD 07-10-2004 09:58 AM

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I hunt unit 61. We've been told it's basically a done deal.

The most frustrating aspect is that the population in our unit has not increased in 10 years, but the overwinter targets for population per square mile have been decreased twice. So WOOLAH!...just like that the unit is deemed to be overpopulated. This despite the fact that the percent of harvest that was antlerless was the highest outside of the CWD zones.

mammasboy 07-10-2004 11:14 AM

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I believe that every unit in WI is overpopulated, and the best thing for WI is earn a buck. BUT, I believe that it should have been reciprocal. You should have to shoot a doe this year to earn a buck tag next year. That way everybody wins! You don't have to pass up a buck and you bring the doe population down.IMO.

turkeyhunter_15 07-10-2004 02:17 PM

RE: Earn A Buck?
 
I Cant Remember What Zone lol, Shawano Cnty. lol,
Its Seems Like Here Deer Pop Is Down.

SCHL44 07-10-2004 02:55 PM

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I own land in zone 61. The deer population veries greatly from one area to the next. As an example my farm and my neighbors farm has corn, soy beans and alfalfa year after year. Other properties close to me are in CRP programs. The owners of these properties dont see much during hunting season, while myself and my neighbor have most of the deer in the area living on our properties. In this area most of the farms have been bought up for hunting or are leased for hunting. This means less hunters are going to be hunting. In my opinion earn a buck will not work. I think the DNR should consider having a late rifle antlerless season in January in areas that have a high deer population.

whitetails & muskies 07-10-2004 08:46 PM

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Mammaboy, that's a pretty broad statement you made. In my area up near Lake Superior, there is defintely not an overpopulation of deer. Again, there can be areas that have more than others fairly close by, but with lake effect snow and wolf predation, MOther Nature does a good job of keeping the herd in check. In some areas in central and southern WI there are deer running around like rabbits...no doubt there needs to be some thinning out in those areas.

mammasboy 07-10-2004 08:50 PM

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I am from Ashland and hunt up there every year. I realize the sightings are not nearly as common as down here but there is still an over population of deer, even up north. I don't mean to be "bold", just my opinion.:D

DeerSlayer83 07-12-2004 04:14 PM

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I know Earn-a-buck is in effect for my unit...Which is 63a...I hunt just south of Shawano outside a small village called Navarino...I have hunted there since I was 12 (20 right now)...The EAB wont effect me much for I am a meat hunter...I see 5 times more doe then I see buck..I have only downed 5 deer, with only 2 being bucks..(8 and a 3 pointer)..Lately the deer I have been seing has been down, Except for last year....We'll see how this year goes and hopefully EAB will be dropped and it will go back to the normal T-zone like it has been for the past few years

TJD 07-12-2004 09:10 PM

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"Overpopulation of deer" is at it's heart a subjective statement. Again, in the unit I hunt, the overall population is virtually unchanged from several years ago. It is the OVERWINTER TARGET for population that has been reduced, so therefore the unit is now considered "overpopulated".

SCHL44 made a great point in that depending on where you are in a particular unit, you could have plenty of deer or very few. I do know this: crop damage claims have declined over the past 7 years, so how the DNR now considers the unit overpopulated is rather curious. Is it more car-deer collisions? Seems like that is the result of more cars, not more deer. I think at the heart of the problem is the SAK model they use for calculating deer population. Too many flaws, too many subjective variables added.

Having said that, I tagged two does last year...the only deer I had the opportunity to shoot due to limited time. This year we plan on harvesting more does, since in our little area, the antlerless population is a little ahead of where we want it to be. But EAB will do one thing: dissuade a large number of the non-hardcore hunters who otherwise might venture into the woods to at least shoot A deer. So unless the rest of us are gonna shoot three or four, I don't see how EAB will cut the population in an area that already has an antlerless harvest of over 65% of the total.

mammasboy 07-13-2004 01:56 PM

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There are times that I may not see deer for days on end, doesn't mean there aren't too many. I remember the days that during 9 days of rifle hunting you would only see a handfull of deer. But, you would have a good chance at seeing a nice one. Usually for me, the less deer sightings I experience the better.

bnhcomputing 07-16-2004 10:47 AM

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Earn a buck is here to STAY! I agree that the way the DNR evaluates deer population needs to be looked at, but we also need to look at what is happening to hunting, not only in Wisconsin, but in other states as well, in general.

Sportsman pay extra taxes every time we purchase equipment, ammo, guns, etc. This money is intended to set aside land on which we can hunt. In my area, we have many refuges, but not much public hunting area. In the old days, we used to have a group of 20-30 guys. We hunted every property in the area. We used the old you drive mine and I drive yours. Now everybody has the “me” attitude, and so we all hunt our own little corner, the deer don’t move, and thus we don’t see/kill as many.

We also have to look at urban sprawl. Every golf course in the state has become a refuge during the hunting season.

As for crop damage claims, again it’s the “me” issue. If they put in a claim, they MUST open their land to hunters, so they simply don’t put in the claim. Unless we, as landowners and hunters, start working together, we will destroy the sport for the common man.

I predict that within 20 years, we will have to pay exorbitant land use fees to the guys with all the money, who will own all the land, or we won’t have any hunting areas. Wooded hunting property is selling/assessed at over $80,000 per 40-acre parcel in most places.

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