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whitetailcrazy 12-31-2013 05:05 PM

Everyone who has hunted in Illinois longer than 10 years. A MUST read!
 
An absolute must read for WHITETAIL hunters!

http://www.heartlandoutdoors.com/gue...etail_disaster


You can't say that I didn't tell you so, earlier this year!

bronko22000 02-09-2014 02:09 PM

Whitetail, believe me, I feel your pain. PA has undergone the same mis-management as Illinois. I will be the first to say that the buck being harvested are older and sport healthier headgear. But the quantity of deer are extremely low- but are slowly coming back. But I still go for several days without seeing a deer. I've also walked miles in freshly fallen snow and not see a single deer track.

browtine7 02-09-2014 05:03 PM

I'm going to Kentucky this upcoming season for my out of state hunt and had been planning to visit Illinois the following season but with all I have seen lately about Illinois I will probably pick a different state to try out!!!!!!!!!

IL_ray_phillips 02-10-2014 05:05 AM

Browtine I have leases in Illinois and Kentucky. I noticed the number of deer down in Kentucky just as Illinois. Generally as a rule I would see 10 to 1 deer in Ky. Not this year it ran pretty even. I seen a lot less doe in both states. I killed a 120 inch velvet 8 point in Ky because I never taken a buck in velvet. I didn't see much in KY with antler after that. Illinois was also way down on doe but I seen some very good bucks missing 1 in the 160's and passing on a 140's that will be a toad this year. Also seen 10 bucks at 2 years old to 1 doe in IL. I think a lot of it is area specific also. How many kill em all mentality you have hunting and taking every animal that moves. From what I have read MO and IN are way down on numbers also. Something up with Midwest deer herd and not sure what it is. I didn't see a lot of EHD but numbers are down. So im leaning more towards low birth rate and over issue of doe permits.

Rob1969 02-10-2014 01:43 PM

At least Michigan can say they have a better management program and a wayyyy better web site.

browtine7 02-10-2014 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by IL_ray_phillips (Post 4121715)
Browtine I have leases in Illinois and Kentucky. I noticed the number of deer down in Kentucky just as Illinois. Generally as a rule I would see 10 to 1 deer in Ky. Not this year it ran pretty even. I seen a lot less doe in both states. I killed a 120 inch velvet 8 point in Ky because I never taken a buck in velvet. I didn't see much in KY with antler after that. Illinois was also way down on doe but I seen some very good bucks missing 1 in the 160's and passing on a 140's that will be a toad this year. Also seen 10 bucks at 2 years old to 1 doe in IL. I think a lot of it is area specific also. How many kill em all mentality you have hunting and taking every animal that moves. From what I have read MO and IN are way down on numbers also. Something up with Midwest deer herd and not sure what it is. I didn't see a lot of EHD but numbers are down. So im leaning more towards low birth rate and over issue of doe permits.

I know what you mean. I live in Mississippi and this was the worst year I have had in a long time both in quanity and quality!!!!!

fastetti 02-18-2014 06:37 PM

A lot of people could see this coming. The problem is people think that license dollars raises a lot of money for this state, which it does. The problem is the money that the state gets from the Insurance companies is far more than they get from deer hunters. The insurance companies are beginning to have the deer/car collisions where they want them and the amount of money that they save is more that the state gets. If you want to change the amount of deer you have on your property or in your area, I'm afraid to say, its going to be up to you and your neighbors. Plant food plots, leave standing crops all winter (we left a lot tho year), have good bedding areas and PRAY we have no EHD next year. Personally, I think for the neighbors and ourselves, we should (barring any diseases or drought) have the best year for deer and big bucks in a long time.

MUZZY 100 02-21-2014 02:42 PM

I agree it will be up to the hunters to limit the number of deer we kill on our farms .The big issue will be getting all the neighbors around you to limit what they kill also. Illinois is to stupid to put together a plan that will work,ummm lets switch the start of gun season from Friday to Monday that should help. AHH NO how about we get rid of the late doe season ...Or just plain limit the tags that can be drawn per county???? Go back to fishing JO..

salukipv1 02-22-2014 03:59 PM

one thing I notice/see is lets say you manage your 200acres well, and then the neighbors go wild, deer drives, etc... and shoot as many deer as possible. We shoot 2-3/yr they may shoot 20+

I'd like to see deer season end by jan1st or sooner even, some bucks were dropping antlers early this year by us! don't need big bucks who have shed being killed in the january antlerless seasons...

salukipv1 02-22-2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by MUZZY 100 (Post 4123961)
I agree it will be up to the hunters to limit the number of deer we kill on our farms .The big issue will be getting all the neighbors around you to limit what they kill also. Illinois is to stupid to put together a plan that will work,ummm lets switch the start of gun season from Friday to Monday that should help. AHH NO how about we get rid of the late doe season ...Or just plain limit the tags that can be drawn per county???? Go back to fishing JO..

totally agree!

all tags should be drawn... even bow tags?

Kid 03-27-2014 07:10 AM

In my opinion Illinois should look to Iowa for some tips on managing Our Deer herd. Anymore, Illinois just sells our Deer herd to the highest bidder, whether that be outfitters/non-residents or the insurance companies. I would like to see much tighter control on the number of non-resident permits available, and the frequency that non-residents can get permits. Say, no more than every third or every other year. Also, i would like to see the IDNR bring back in-person check stations. I think there are way more deer being killed and never accounted for than IDNR is willing to admit because they basically use the honor system with the call in checking. The worst thing to ever happen to Deer hunting in Illinois was gaining the reputation of having monster bucks behind every tree. Throw in our previous Governor's penchant for raping the IDNR budget to buy votes in Chicago and it is easy to see why Deer hunting is in the toilet here in Illinois. Personally, I don't expect things to get better here any time soon.

RWK 03-29-2014 08:41 AM

So much of bad management happens in all our states, when insurance companies get involved, they lobby the hell out of the lawmakers for higher kills. Rich

fastetti 03-30-2014 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by RWK (Post 4131549)
So much of bad management happens in all our states, when insurance companies get involved, they lobby the hell out of the lawmakers for higher kills. Rich

Rich hit it on the head. People need to realize this is what is happening to our deer herd. It's all about money and in the last 10 years the insurance companies have been outbidding for our deer herd. It's one of the great tricks the Illinois Government has pulled by not making people aware this is how it is working.


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