byw

Just a warning to not ever book with this guy you will be sorry like we are.
First we get out to Iowa (on the border of MN.) a day early to meet our guide. Call him, busy doing other stuff will meet us later does tell us how to find property we will be hunting . So we go and drive around looks pretty good. Hrs go by still no where to be seen . I finally ask what he is driving and he tells me around 1 pm we see him at the edge of a wood lot setting up a blind. Thats right the day before the opener he is putting up the blinds. Red flag number one. Red flag number 2 he wants us to stay out on road and remember where they are for the walk in the next day. So we never see the set ups. HMM. Anyway after he is done we part ways his parting words can you guys drive yourselves out and get to blinds in the dark by yourselves. Sure. The morning starts off fine we all get in only to have it get light and find we are all setting in weeds that are 6 ft tall you can see but barely . I did see a good buck at 9am 500 yards away and another medium 9 I passed up thought hey this trip is going pretty good. Well for my 3 hunting buddies things went south about 9:30am when the neighbors started to drive the very woods they were hunting . My drivers came by me at 1pm. We were promised no one but us would be on this land . He also said we had 4.5 miles of river bottom which turned into about 320 acres. flat lied about that with others all around us and among us. Any way opening night he calls me well how many did you shoot.Mind you I was the only one to see a good buck. I told him about the drivers which made us mad and about the blind set ups that could have used some trimming. Well he hung up on me and did not talk to us until Monday when he sent a text saying "you guys have until noon today to pay up or you can take your whinning asses back to Mi. " So glad we had not had to pay the rest of our money yet. We did get burned for half of the hunt and our Iowa tags but still have the other half to put towards a real hunt next yr. This guy was just a wack job. Just a side note they drove our woods Sunday and Monday . Monday At 9am we took our whinning asses back to Mi. Where we stopped at my brother inlaws camp (UP) and I shot a nice 8 pt with my musket. Here is his web site please don't waste your time or money. http://www.mnwhitetailhunts.com/

Trapper22

Wow, if you shoot anything over a 120 inch buck you have to pay a trophy fee on top of that outragous price. What a rip off. That alone should send up a red flag that they don't have that many large deer taken. You'd be farther off hunting public land in either state than paying that. Also you only get 5 days for that kind of money!!!??

Your chances of shooting a deer on public land are probably better than with that guy anyway. I'd be prouder of a basket racked buck on public ground than a 120 that cost roughly 2 to 3 grand or more.

Rangerlab

I would suggest posting your experience on this website
http://www.huntinfo.com/hunting-outfitter-reviews . Good to let as many others know as possible.

byw

Thanks wish I would have known about that site before. He is not listed with a review but he will be. Great source of info for my next hunt. Lots of similar bad reviews. As big as deer hunting has got I guess there are lots of people who think they can guide jumping on the band wagon. Some are just there to make a quick buck AKA con men. So sad you can't just trust everyone on there word. Maybe we need to go back in time where if your word did not hold water they just shot ya. That would clean up the bad outfitters in the world.Ha ha

getitstraight

BWY..AKA Mike from michigan

First of all about 80% of what you posted is BS

If your going to talk bad lets tell the whole story ok

I had been incontact with you all along.I told you we just had 50-75 mph winds/snow storm in which you countered on the way to this hunt if i'm not mistaken.At below O temps you all wanted to hunts blinds correct???..So for the 3rd time in 3 weeks i reset the blinds only to have them blown away by severe storms wich i did tell you(CORRECT)

I also told you on your drive to MN/Iowa i was probly going to wait for the last minute to reset everything(2 reasons why)I said the deer patterns will change over this storm big time and i'm not going to lose another$2,000.00 in blinds.

Now as a guide i know every inch of my property unlike you as a hunter just comming on this property for the 1st time.I told you there were 2 small tracks of land along this stretch we cannot hunt a 40 acre and 80 acre this is where these guys were to be hunting.(other hunters)No they did not have permission to be on the land you were hunting the land owner was gone like i said and i have no rights to kick people off without proper papper work in hand.(which i normaly do have)but under pressure from all the storms pooring in on us around the state all my time was taken away from things we normaly have time for.Working 20 hour days the way it is then trying to hook up with a busy farmer heading outa state for the winter was next to impossible

Now heres actualy how your time went here and things you told me prior to the hunt

You arrived here a half a day early but thats ok you knew i would be busy since we talked on the phone during one of the largest blizzards we have encountered for 15 years

I asked you on the phone when you arrived do you want to go check out the property on your own or meet me down in this area later in the morning as i'm DOING my job.Searching for trophy bucks for you on different farms since we just had 50-75 mph winds (which we dont get every day) most deer are going to be in places no one has seen them before (sure that sounds great you stated)I called you several times during that morning and you guys were more then happy of all the deer you were seeing all around where you were going hunting

I start setting up blinds where i have a very good idea where most of the big bucks should be during a storm.Now across the road i have 6 blinds in place for normal weather and after a couple days the deer will return to those blinds which i told you.The blinds i just set out were for the deer that got pushed into to the thickest cover we have to offer.Since you have fork horns and spikes where you're located at you would'nt understand how are 180"-200" bucks survive to be 5 1/2 and older

It is against the law for us to contact 1 another as hunters about deer movement as i told you prior to the hunt.No cell phone use to talk about deer movement.If you want to come out thats fine or if you shot 1 come get me thats fine.NOT fine to say hey i'm seeing 40 deer here and jo my buddy wants to set up by this tree over here go get him i'll call him and tell him where all the deer are

Speaking of deer Mike..You stated any buck 140 class or larger was a dead deer..If i'm not mistaken you passed up one that size right after the larger deer you seen an hour prior to that..HMMM how big was that buck Mike??? Think you stated he was all of 180" plus then you have the balls to call me complaining about the blinds were in the wrong place when i told you these were temp blinds because all these deer will be back to normal in a day or 2.

To come find out you were texting your hunting party about all the deer you were encountering.Well i cant hold back mother nature and i sure cant tell you what a 180" buck will be doing during/after a 50-75 mph wind with sleet/hail/rain and then several inches of snow with temps falling 50 degrees in 3 hours.I have every text message you 4 so called trophy hunters sent me also the ones i sent you right along with e-mails i keep them all

I told you it's only a matter of time when these deer make there way back to what they always do in a 5 day period you will all get what you came for but you could not keep your lips together with out complaing about something even after you seen the 2nd largest buck in the wild you ever encountered

Please dont waste any other outfitters time

always 2 sides to a story and i'll text any one who wants to read all the (in ? texting you guys were doing during leagal hunting hours)

Also Mike i told you guys you have until noon to hunt on your 2 1/2 day hunt that was for the 50% deposit you sent me i said keep the rest of the 50% you owe me and go home and eat some cheese i'm busy for the next 2 1/2 days on hunters who actualy want to hunt not have a 180" buck tied to a tree so i can go drink some more beer

You guys are not hunters and i suggest that you stick with your so called guiding in Michigan pheasant hunting/fork horn deer hunting and get yelled at by hunters there like you stated to me how dumb a lot of hunters can be when dealing with the public.Then you come here and do what others do to you in Michigan

GO FIGURE

I gave you how many refferences not all the hunters shot bucks but had a hunt of a life time and most return.Guys like yourself are not hunters you want every thing handed to you on a silver platter

hnt4food

This is great to see both sides of this. Who knows the real truth? We may never know but it really doesn't matter. I know who I believe and that I will keep to myself. I do know one thing, Michigan was refered to as a place to shoot spikes and forks. Well in some places that is true, but in other places it is not to difficult to take 130 - 160 class bucks. Depends on what part of the state you might be hunting. Now just because I am from Michigan I hope no one assumes that I am defending the disgruntled hunter in this post. As I said, I know who I believe and I will leave it at that.

vl Whitetail Genereal lv

where abouts in minnesota was this??

vl Whitetail Genereal lv

never mind i see its in spring valley

getitstraight

Well i'm only going by what aka mike told me about Michigan (his hunting area)Mike stated he is a Guide for deer as well as pheasants.He takes out a lot of deer hunters on a small track of land and acording to his statements mike told me if you shoot a 110" buck we drive around town with it in the back of are trucks all week

1st of all my opinion on his hunting ethics is that hes all about money and lets get as many people as we can.You cant take out 30-40 hunters on a small track of land and expect to shoot trophy bucks year after year(Guess thats why he came to hunt with us)

I have not even posted my 2011 hunts yet.Several reasons why

1)Were going to have some winter kill how much will be seen in another month

2)I'm working on another 10,000 acre farm and a couple smaller farms

3)economy(what can the average hunter afford and what are my expenses going to be)Fuel prices are what kills my pocket right along every other person

4)Kinda goes with number 1 but the deer herds dont look like they been feeding well with all the deep snow and ice we have.I'm thinking antler growth wont be as good and we will lose some trophy bucks do to the harsh winter.We have several standing corn fields but in most cases the deer are not able to get into the standing corn.We make paths the winds blows them shut same day or the next

5)How many repeat hunters are comming back and what dates.All my repeat hunters have 1st choice of dates.Now take all the above put them together and we'll see whats left for 2011.

Any one reading this thats from Mn and wants to have some fun blasting yotes let me know.I go almost every day.Were heading to ND this weekend for some hot action.