2 out of 3 so far
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: CWD Central, WI.
Posts: 2,062
2 out of 3 so far
Positive CWD Test
Tissue from the deer you provided to the Wisconsin DNR for chronic wasting disease (CWD) testing has been found to contain CWD prions. Because your deer has tested CWD positive, consumption of the venison is not advised. Although no association between CWD and any human disease condition has been proven, current World Health Organization guidelines recommend that deer known to be positive for CWD should not be consumed. If you would like assistance with disposing of your venison or other products from this deer, you can call your local DNR office to make the appropriate arrangements. If you have additional questions about CWD, check the DNR website: www.dnr.state.wi.us.
CWD Sampling Barcode #: XXXXX
Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance
DNR Customer #: XXXXXXX
County: Dane
Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS
Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD
Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼
Date Killed: Thursday , November 14, 2002
Deer Sex: Female
Deer Age: 9-11
Results Available: Yes
CWD Test Result: Positive
Tissue from the deer you provided to the Wisconsin DNR for chronic wasting disease (CWD) testing has been found to contain CWD prions. Because your deer has tested CWD positive, consumption of the venison is not advised. Although no association between CWD and any human disease condition has been proven, current World Health Organization guidelines recommend that deer known to be positive for CWD should not be consumed. If you would like assistance with disposing of your venison or other products from this deer, you can call your local DNR office to make the appropriate arrangements. If you have additional questions about CWD, check the DNR website: www.dnr.state.wi.us.
CWD Sampling Barcode #: XXXXX
Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance
DNR Customer #: XXXXXXX
County: Dane
Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS
Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD
Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼
Date Killed: Thursday , November 14, 2002
Deer Sex: Female
Deer Age: 9-11
Results Available: Yes
CWD Test Result: Positive
CWD Not Detected
Tissue from the deer you provided the Wisconsin DNR for chronic wasting disease (CWD) testing has been examined for prions. There were no prions found and therefore no evidence that the deer is affected with CWD. However, the inability to find CWD prions in the tissue examined is NOT equivalent to pronouncing this deer absolutely free of CWD prions or stating that it is safe to consume. All laboratory tests for CWD only assess the presence or absence of a detectable amount of prions in the specific tissue examined at the time the tissue was collected. A recently infected animal may not test positive because prions have not yet reached a detectable level in the tissue that was tested. CWD testing is clearly of value for disease surveillance to learn where the disease exists, but it has limited value in the context of food safety testing. If you have additional questions about CWD, check the DNR website: www.dnr.state.wi.us.
CWD Sampling Barcode #: XXXXX
Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance
DNR Customer #: XXXXXXX
County: Dane
Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS
Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD
Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼
Date Killed: Thursday , November 21, 2002
Deer Sex: Female
Deer Age: 1
Results Available: Yes
CWD Test Result: Negative
Tissue from the deer you provided the Wisconsin DNR for chronic wasting disease (CWD) testing has been examined for prions. There were no prions found and therefore no evidence that the deer is affected with CWD. However, the inability to find CWD prions in the tissue examined is NOT equivalent to pronouncing this deer absolutely free of CWD prions or stating that it is safe to consume. All laboratory tests for CWD only assess the presence or absence of a detectable amount of prions in the specific tissue examined at the time the tissue was collected. A recently infected animal may not test positive because prions have not yet reached a detectable level in the tissue that was tested. CWD testing is clearly of value for disease surveillance to learn where the disease exists, but it has limited value in the context of food safety testing. If you have additional questions about CWD, check the DNR website: www.dnr.state.wi.us.
CWD Sampling Barcode #: XXXXX
Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance
DNR Customer #: XXXXXXX
County: Dane
Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS
Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD
Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼
Date Killed: Thursday , November 21, 2002
Deer Sex: Female
Deer Age: 1
Results Available: Yes
CWD Test Result: Negative
Positive CWD Test
Tissue from the deer you provided to the Wisconsin DNR for chronic wasting disease (CWD) testing has been found to contain CWD prions. Because your deer has tested CWD positive, consumption of the venison is not advised. Although no association between CWD and any human disease condition has been proven, current World Health Organization guidelines recommend that deer known to be positive for CWD should not be consumed. If you would like assistance with disposing of your venison or other products from this deer, you can call your local DNR office to make the appropriate arrangements. If you have additional questions about CWD, check the DNR website: www.dnr.state.wi.us.
CWD Sampling Barcode #: XXXXX
Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance
DNR Customer #: XXXXXXX
County: Dane
Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS
Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD
Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼
Date Killed: Thursday , November 21, 2002
Deer Sex: Male
Deer Age: 3
Results Available: Yes
CWD Test Result: Positive
Tissue from the deer you provided to the Wisconsin DNR for chronic wasting disease (CWD) testing has been found to contain CWD prions. Because your deer has tested CWD positive, consumption of the venison is not advised. Although no association between CWD and any human disease condition has been proven, current World Health Organization guidelines recommend that deer known to be positive for CWD should not be consumed. If you would like assistance with disposing of your venison or other products from this deer, you can call your local DNR office to make the appropriate arrangements. If you have additional questions about CWD, check the DNR website: www.dnr.state.wi.us.
CWD Sampling Barcode #: XXXXX
Period: Fall 2002 Hunting Season Surveillance
DNR Customer #: XXXXXXX
County: Dane
Registration Station: NORSLEIN' S WOOD WORKS
Deer Management Unit: 70A-CWD
Twn/Rng/Sec/QS: T 7 N R 6 E Sec 4 NW¼
Date Killed: Thursday , November 21, 2002
Deer Sex: Male
Deer Age: 3
Results Available: Yes
CWD Test Result: Positive
Couple questions for ya, but first some info on the above deer. The old doe above was thrown in the dumpster because she showed signs of disease. You might recall the thread about her getting hammered by numerous bucks in my yard. She was so crippled and weak she could not escape them. The 1 yr. old negative doe, is cut and wrapped in my freezer. The other 2 bucks, including the positive, were given to a friend of mine. He was well informed by me and the media of the possibility of CWD infection in the local deer herd. He told me he didn' t care whether they had it or not, he was going to eat them. After all, we' ve been eating deer from around here for years. Well...........he already ate the positive one and most of the second. Now the questions
1. Should I tell him the deer he already consumed was positive?
2. Would you eat the 1 yr. old negative doe in my freezer?
He already knows the remainder of the second buck (test results not available yet) was 1 of 3 bucks registered together, of which 1 was positive. That positive and the third deer was shot by my other buddy who owns the land. If he would of had the freezer space, he would have taken all three shot that day.
#2
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New Berlin WI USA
Posts: 85
RE: 2 out of 3 so far
First of all my condolences to you on the test results. I truly feel for you guys in that area and appreciate your efforts in trying to control it.
I would certainly tell your friend about the positive. If he didn' t care about the CWD in the first place he shouldn' t care now. But if you don' t tell him, he might get pretty hot. He knew there was a + chance. I see no reason not to tell him. I would also eat the negative doe.
I would certainly tell your friend about the positive. If he didn' t care about the CWD in the first place he shouldn' t care now. But if you don' t tell him, he might get pretty hot. He knew there was a + chance. I see no reason not to tell him. I would also eat the negative doe.
#3
RE: 2 out of 3 so far
Nub, that is a bummer!
In answer to the questions:
1) Yes, I would tell him. I cannot think of a reason to not tell him I guess, and he knew going in what he was getting into.
2) Sure I would eat the one that was negative. Why not? As you said, you' ve been eating venison from the area for years, this one tested safe...a nice tender doe would be good eating.
Hope you have better fortunes this season.
In answer to the questions:
1) Yes, I would tell him. I cannot think of a reason to not tell him I guess, and he knew going in what he was getting into.
2) Sure I would eat the one that was negative. Why not? As you said, you' ve been eating venison from the area for years, this one tested safe...a nice tender doe would be good eating.
Hope you have better fortunes this season.
#4
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: CWD Central, WI.
Posts: 2,062
RE: 2 out of 3 so far
He stopped by this morning, so I told him. All he said was, " don' t that suck, just my luck" . I tried to comfort him a bit by saying we' ve probably been eating them for years. He' s always mooched venison from me in the past and together we' ve probably ate a good dozen in the last 3 years. I' m still not sure if I' ll eat the doe in my freezer or not. Perhaps Paul wants another.8^)lol. It is of that age where CWD would be harder to detect. (1.5)
Simply put, my thoughts now on CWD are, IT REALLY SUCKS. I went from bowhunting almost every day of the season in 2001, to zero days in 2002. Between Moose hunting, work, and an early gun season it just wasn' t worth buying a license. Couple all that with heavy hunting pressure all summer, bowhunting just didn' t seem all that attractive. I think Eradication efforts are needed not just here but, around all the satalite positives. If we don' t do it now, you all could be standing in my shoes very soon. Believe me, you all just cannot feel what I' m going through. I have stands that were a 3 minute walk out my back door! I used to bowhunt every spare moment I had. I' ve lost my desire after 35 years.
Baiting and feeding is a big mistake. Common sense tells me nose to nose contact isn' t a good idea. Those few who stand to profit now will cost us all down the road. Those who feel they need that to harvest a deer, are not hunters. Given the choice in life, they' ve most likely always take the easy way out.
Scents and lures should be next. If interstate shipping of infected animals(read game farms) didn' t get this crap across the river, scents and lures probably did. How many times have you all witnessed a deer licking your scent off the area we applied it? Food extracts and artificial lures should be all we are allowed to use until these farms pumping out deer piss are better regulated.
Eradication is the only way to control CWD. Will I bowhunt this fall? I' d like to. Will I buy a tag? Not unless I find a place out of the zone to hunt. And don' t tell me " they need my money to support the war on CWD." They seem to have enough money to buy new pickups and plaster them with FIGHT CWD stickers. They should be compensateing some of those hard working volonteers instead. Those new trucks are viewed as some what of a waste of funds around here.
Simply put, my thoughts now on CWD are, IT REALLY SUCKS. I went from bowhunting almost every day of the season in 2001, to zero days in 2002. Between Moose hunting, work, and an early gun season it just wasn' t worth buying a license. Couple all that with heavy hunting pressure all summer, bowhunting just didn' t seem all that attractive. I think Eradication efforts are needed not just here but, around all the satalite positives. If we don' t do it now, you all could be standing in my shoes very soon. Believe me, you all just cannot feel what I' m going through. I have stands that were a 3 minute walk out my back door! I used to bowhunt every spare moment I had. I' ve lost my desire after 35 years.
Baiting and feeding is a big mistake. Common sense tells me nose to nose contact isn' t a good idea. Those few who stand to profit now will cost us all down the road. Those who feel they need that to harvest a deer, are not hunters. Given the choice in life, they' ve most likely always take the easy way out.
Scents and lures should be next. If interstate shipping of infected animals(read game farms) didn' t get this crap across the river, scents and lures probably did. How many times have you all witnessed a deer licking your scent off the area we applied it? Food extracts and artificial lures should be all we are allowed to use until these farms pumping out deer piss are better regulated.
Eradication is the only way to control CWD. Will I bowhunt this fall? I' d like to. Will I buy a tag? Not unless I find a place out of the zone to hunt. And don' t tell me " they need my money to support the war on CWD." They seem to have enough money to buy new pickups and plaster them with FIGHT CWD stickers. They should be compensateing some of those hard working volonteers instead. Those new trucks are viewed as some what of a waste of funds around here.
#5
RE: 2 out of 3 so far
Should you tell, ??? absolutely !!!
Nub, just watch your friend for incontrollable facial tics in the future , LOL, !!! J/K
Should you eat the good one, hell ya !!!!!
I would !!!!!
He was well informed by me and the media of the possibility of CWD infection in the local deer herd. He told me he didn' t care whether they had it or not, he was going to eat them. After all, we' ve been eating deer from around here for years
Should you eat the good one, hell ya !!!!!
I would !!!!!
#6
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 612
RE: 2 out of 3 so far
Nub,
Sorry to hear about the positives. I cant imagine having the ability of walking out the back door and bowhunt when you wanted to only to now deal with CWD. Im sure this is tearing you up and can totally understand why you lost your desire. We can only " hope" that they will figure out how to stop and control this diease.
Did you make it to the Madison Expo? I was there but did not make it to the CWD seminar. Last year i attended and it got pretty ugly with the people getting upset. Im curious how it went this year and if anything new was said or learned.
I did make it to Mike Lapinski' s seminar on Elk hunting and it was excellent. If anyone gets a chance to hear him speak spend the time.
Sorry to hear about the positives. I cant imagine having the ability of walking out the back door and bowhunt when you wanted to only to now deal with CWD. Im sure this is tearing you up and can totally understand why you lost your desire. We can only " hope" that they will figure out how to stop and control this diease.
Did you make it to the Madison Expo? I was there but did not make it to the CWD seminar. Last year i attended and it got pretty ugly with the people getting upset. Im curious how it went this year and if anything new was said or learned.
I did make it to Mike Lapinski' s seminar on Elk hunting and it was excellent. If anyone gets a chance to hear him speak spend the time.
#7
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: CWD Central, WI.
Posts: 2,062
RE: 2 out of 3 so far
Don: Yes I made it to the show, didn' t take in the CWD seminar tho. I guess you could say I' m liveing the seminar.
Priz: Funny you should say that. He did just break out with a rash or hives on one side of his face. That and the eye on the same side, swelled totally shut. I was jokeingly saying to him that he had CWD from the deer I gave him. Turns out he had Shingles. A little irony there too, he' s a shingler.[]
I think I' ll have company in the Eradication Zone next fall. Look for the DNR to include a zone around all those positives in western Iowa Co. Should hit the fan just after Turkey season ends.
Priz: Funny you should say that. He did just break out with a rash or hives on one side of his face. That and the eye on the same side, swelled totally shut. I was jokeingly saying to him that he had CWD from the deer I gave him. Turns out he had Shingles. A little irony there too, he' s a shingler.[]
I think I' ll have company in the Eradication Zone next fall. Look for the DNR to include a zone around all those positives in western Iowa Co. Should hit the fan just after Turkey season ends.
#8
RE: 2 out of 3 so far
Priz: Funny you should say that. He did just break out with a rash or hives on one side of his face. That and the eye on the same side, swelled totally shut. I was jokeingly saying to him that he had CWD from the deer I gave him. Turns out he had Shingles. A little irony there too, he' s a shingler.