Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
#31
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
Very good and valid points, duke...
As someone who makes their real living in medical sales with 70% of my territory in Southern Illinois, I've seen first-hand how inept the Illinois government -- and specifically Blagojevich -- has been in withholding monies promised to hospitals for reimbursement of medicare and medicaid for what I can only guess is his more personal pet projects. It's effected a large percentage of my smaller hospitals to the point that patient care has suffered.
It's almost unthinkable to fathom how Illinois' government is bent on robbing ready resources to the point of affecting vastly different resources ranging from healthcare to sportsmen's wallets to satisfy its own greed.
As someone who makes their real living in medical sales with 70% of my territory in Southern Illinois, I've seen first-hand how inept the Illinois government -- and specifically Blagojevich -- has been in withholding monies promised to hospitals for reimbursement of medicare and medicaid for what I can only guess is his more personal pet projects. It's effected a large percentage of my smaller hospitals to the point that patient care has suffered.
It's almost unthinkable to fathom how Illinois' government is bent on robbing ready resources to the point of affecting vastly different resources ranging from healthcare to sportsmen's wallets to satisfy its own greed.
#32
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
It's almost unthinkable to fathom how Illinois' government is bent on robbing ready resources to the point of affecting vastly different resources ranging from healthcare to sportsmen's wallets to satisfy its own greed.
#33
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
ORIGINAL: salukipv1
I think the Eastern states tend to be a deal compare to out west. Mostly all we have are whitetails, out west they have it all, so one state not only gets your deer tag fees, your elk, moose, goat, sheep. One of the reason I support increased/fair tag fees, is to take that money and put it towards habiat/hunting etc....so its a surprise that here in IL it doesn't all goto those purposes. I hope someone takes over and gets it right.
I think the Eastern states tend to be a deal compare to out west. Mostly all we have are whitetails, out west they have it all, so one state not only gets your deer tag fees, your elk, moose, goat, sheep. One of the reason I support increased/fair tag fees, is to take that money and put it towards habiat/hunting etc....so its a surprise that here in IL it doesn't all goto those purposes. I hope someone takes over and gets it right.
I payed $178 for an over the counter Deer tag in NE for 07, and $86 for a NR Turkey tag. They will be the same in 08. I'd hate to think I had to pay $400 plus for the deer tag. MO. NR Turkey tag of $175 is high enough but at least you can hunt the entire season and kill 2 turkeys.
It's like Cougar said in IL we have to draw for aspecific week and then if you get sour weather you may be screwed. That's the reason they made 5 weeks of Turkey season, they can sell tags 5 times. Sad!![:@]
Dan
#34
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
I stand corrected! Did they do that in 2006? I believe the person selling licenses told me this. I cant find my 2006 minn. regs. book. Sorry for the misinformation.
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Minnesota charges 141.00 for a Non Resident Archery Deer License, thats either sex. Thats pretty cheap compared to some states.
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
FYI For those Ill. bow hunters going to minn. Minn. charges out of state hunters the same as their state charges Minn. hunters to hunt there. So this will effect some resident Il. bow hunters too. Also economics is driven by supply and demand so we are the ones in power. All we have to do is put the bows away for one year and I bet we could change the license fees and guide fees in a hurry. It would happen so fast that you wouldnt even miss a season. Just hold out like the pro sports players do and watch how fast things will change.
FYI For those Ill. bow hunters going to minn. Minn. charges out of state hunters the same as their state charges Minn. hunters to hunt there. So this will effect some resident Il. bow hunters too. Also economics is driven by supply and demand so we are the ones in power. All we have to do is put the bows away for one year and I bet we could change the license fees and guide fees in a hurry. It would happen so fast that you wouldnt even miss a season. Just hold out like the pro sports players do and watch how fast things will change.
#35
Typical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St. Louis, Mo
Posts: 855
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
It's hardly ever about the hunters. It's almost always about revenue. This sucks. If you who are paying these absorbant prices keep paying them they'll just continue to increase. Wise up people. We are a cash cow to most states.
Spud from Misouri
Spud from Misouri
#36
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
Hell, i thought that it was already legal to bow hunt during gun season. In the area where i hunt, it is all private land, so i dont really see hunting pressure increase the same way that it might on public lands. There are too damn many deer anyway, so, except for the high prices, I dont see a real downside to increasing the potential for higher harvest rates. it would be wonderful if they would take just a small portion of therevenue generated by deer permits and invest it in developing public access land.
#37
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 575
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I guess the best we can hope for is for Blagosumbitch and other greedy, corrupt politiciansto run the IDNR into the ground to the point where our deer herd crashes, so the outfitters and non-residents move on to rape and pillage some other state's deer herd and we can have control of ours back.
#38
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
I would think that this is an area where people can do something if they organize. The state government should be held accoutable for how money generated by hunting is spent, especially in terms of reinvesting money in developing and maintaining natural resources. Unfortunately, even though i own land in Illinois, I am no longer a resident (now a damn out-of-state hunter after 40 years as a resident). Otherwise, I would spend half my time on the phone or writing letters to my state legislators.
#39
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
Illinois has the single highest priced whitetail tags in the United States. Number one. Just glad I moved here from Indiana 2 years so I don't have to deal with it anymore.Covered myself by picking up a lifetime license for only $210.Those are so cheap it's the first thing I signed up for when I became elligible. Definitely a system grossly weighed in favor of residents, and as a resident I don't like it. My out-of-state friends cannot hunt with me anymore. This sucks. I think everyone should be able to hunt every state reasonably. In my case I hunt primarily federal land too. My buddiesown it and are getting screwed out of hunting it.
#40
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Posts: 119
RE: Illinois NR price increase and quota increase plus...
I live in Michigan, and have hunted Illinois the last 10 seasons. I remember when the tags were $125 over the counter!
They are simply getting ridiculous. I love to hunt Illinois, but there are other states with just as good hunting and alot more reasonable prices.
I managed to get a lease in Buffalo County Wisconsin this year, the tags are only $160 over the counter. According to P&Y, and B&C Buffalo County has been one of the best counties in the country for 10 years running for book animals. I have hunted their several times, but this will be my first year with a lease. Illinois maybe on the back burner for me now.
They are simply getting ridiculous. I love to hunt Illinois, but there are other states with just as good hunting and alot more reasonable prices.
I managed to get a lease in Buffalo County Wisconsin this year, the tags are only $160 over the counter. According to P&Y, and B&C Buffalo County has been one of the best counties in the country for 10 years running for book animals. I have hunted their several times, but this will be my first year with a lease. Illinois maybe on the back burner for me now.