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Will you believe CWD test results from the DNR?

Old 12-16-2002, 11:50 PM
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Default Will you believe CWD test results from the DNR?

First- upon reading numerous threads concerning Wisconsin's DNR, it's obvious many posters don't agree with their proposals and reasoning in regards to our deer population. Many don't believe in the SAK system and even feel the DNR is trying to reduce a herd that doesn't need to be downsized. They simply don't trust or like the DNR.

Second- when CWD came onto the scene in Wisconsin and the DNR wanted an eradication program started, most people balked at the idea and demanded more testing and research. If, and only if, the disease was confined to one region of the state and proven not to be a natural disease that we've lived with for years would people agree to an eradication zone.

Although it is very, very early to determine the area where CWD exists, we've had positive confirmations that began in Mt. Horeb and surrounding areas. Several months later, we've seen positives among wild deer in nearby Grant County and even into Illinois where 3 new cases have shown up. Without looking at my atlas, I believe all these cases are within a reasonable distance of each other. A distance where CWD could have spread within the 3-5 years it has supposedly been here.

Now albeit very early in the testing process, early test results have shown no wild deer to have CWD outside the southwest portion of Wisconsin or nearby Illinois counties. Minnesota has had several hundred (400?)tests come back negative- the only positive being a penned elk in Aiken County. Wisconsin has only had penned animals outside the hot zone test positive- except for the 1 suspicious test.

And even the penned animals stated by the DNR as testing positive are being questioned. Stan Hall, owner of a game farm near Almond, WI, had a deer that tested positive. Half of that brain stem went to the state DNR where they claim it tested positive. Hall never actually saw the test. He was simply told the deer had CWD. Hall sent the other half to a pathologist named Laura(?) Williams who is credited with discovering CWD years ago. Her test results state that same deer was negative for CWD. Hall is now demanding legal action to provide proof of the DNR's tests and stop sharpshooters from destroying his herd.

Finally- some of you at HuntingNet stated you would consider an eradication plan if it was shown CWD was only found in wild deer in a certain region. As I stated, early results indicate that it is only being found in southwest WI and nearby Illinois counties. If this trend continues, would you still agree to an eradication effort? A strong dislike for the DNR and suspicions being raised by Mr. Hall may lead some to believe the DNR is "hiding" something. Comments?

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Old 12-17-2002, 08:34 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>A strong dislike for the DNR and suspicions being raised by Mr. Hall may lead some to believe the DNR is &quot;hiding&quot; something. Comments?
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The DNR is always hiding something!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> The percentage of analized results so far is a very small percentage of samples taken. I'd bet its less than 5% returned so far. Now I'm not about to go to their site and accually do the math, but I have been keeping an eye on the returns. You forgot to mention the positive from Marathon Co. up by Wausaw. That will shoot holes in the centrally located theory. I also read on another site that 3 more were found in Ill. with one being substancially away from the first. I think they already know theres some additional positives well out from the core area in my neighborhood. I also think we won't here of them until closer to the closing date of the first eradication. If they announce it now, hunting around here will come to a screeching halt. It already is almost nonexsistant. Our state would have too many of those 11 mile radius circles overlapping. They would have to make most of the state eradication zones and that would put a serious damper on license sales. I think they'll release enough info to justify massive T Zone type hunts but still try and keep hunter participation high. I also think that to keep us out in the woods, they must continue to offer free testing to those who want it. If test costs go back up to the $50. buy from Gander Mt. cost, a lot of people will just say f*** it.
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Old 12-17-2002, 12:36 PM
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I didn't forget the deer near Wausau. I live between Wausau and the Almond deer farm where CWD was detected. The test result from the Wausau deer came back &quot;suspicious&quot; as I referred to it and as of late last week, the private firm analyzing the tests from the Gander kits asked the DNR for a positive sample to compare it to. I still have not seen a report that confirmed it as positive. Maybe I missed it?

And I also noted the newest cases in Illinois in my post. I simply thought all the confirmed tests in wild deer were still considered to be in a relatively small region when looking at the Midwest as a whole. Granted, it still covers a large area. Many people thought CWD was a disease that occurs everywhere in certain deer and has been around for years. I guess I feel that view has not been proven yet, but as nub stated, it is very, very early.

I was simply curious if CWD was brought here accidentally, would the one-time opponents of eradication change their mind if it was finally proven to be &quot;centralized&quot; and not a natural disease? Would the research everyone asked for change their mind? But as Nick pointed out, it may be useless now.
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Old 12-17-2002, 02:43 PM
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gnb: I can honestly say; If its determined that CWD is only in the imediate area surrounding my home(as the DNR says), I will eradicate every deer I see with extreme predjudice.
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