Walmart
03-09-2007, 07:59 AM
#31
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,828
RE: Walmart
ORIGINAL: turkey guide
One week away from pulling guns from Bethany Mo. store. Wal-Mart was a bad place to buy guns anyway. The prices were great but the guns weren't. After having to return two of three guns purchased there,I swore to only buy guns from reputable dealers who always receive first quality weapons from their suppliers and don't get factory seconds like Wal-Mart. This was years ago about the time they stopped selling handguns. I'm more than happy now to pay the extra $$ to not have to return junk guns. Despite their NO REFUNDSpolicy on guns, I got a refund.
One week away from pulling guns from Bethany Mo. store. Wal-Mart was a bad place to buy guns anyway. The prices were great but the guns weren't. After having to return two of three guns purchased there,I swore to only buy guns from reputable dealers who always receive first quality weapons from their suppliers and don't get factory seconds like Wal-Mart. This was years ago about the time they stopped selling handguns. I'm more than happy now to pay the extra $$ to not have to return junk guns. Despite their NO REFUNDSpolicy on guns, I got a refund.
This give me a chuckle evertime I see someone post a phrase like this. Get a grip people.....you really think a gun maker is going to let "factory seconds" out the door??? Wake Up!!
03-09-2007, 10:31 AM
#32
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Eagleville Missouri
Posts: 338
RE: Walmart
Yes gunmakers do let factory seconds out the door. Now days they admit it and market them as such instead of shipping them along with huge orders to discount retailers and hoping nobody noticed, which of course most people don't. The best example I can think of offhand is a very high end weapon, the Armalite AR-10's and 15's, Which have been marketed forseveral years now as Eagle Arms. If the receivers or anything else have a flaw, they are built and stamped as Eagle Arms and sold cheaper. They are built to the same standards as Armalite Rifles on the same machines and assembly lineand shoot just as well but may have a cosmetic flaw and are not guaranteed the same. The thing is, they freely admit it and tell you upfront why you are paying 1/3rd less. I heard this first from an Armalitefactory rep at an NRA convention and Eagle Arms Stamped rifles came on the market a year or two later. This is easily confirmed by checking the Armalite/Eagle Arms website, and or calling them. Many other manufacturers probably all of them have sold firearms for less money under different names, and available only at certain hardware or discount stores willing to accept and sell them under their own name. They are not always bad guns, just not perfect guns and don't bear the Big Brand name. An Armalite second is never sold as an Armalite. Technically the substandard parts are sold to EagleArms and become their top of the line first quality guns, but theyARE Armalite seconds. Parts that don't meetEagles standards either, may be sold unmarked to any other manufacturer who wants them andwill become something else. Seconds, thirds and so on do make it out the door and onto the market.
03-09-2007, 03:49 PM
#33
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin/Michigan
Posts: 9,679
RE: Walmart
ORIGINAL: Fuzzyballs44
Not only does our wal-mart still sell guns, but they have just increased the size of their sporting goods side of the house.
If you are that fired up about your states gun laws...go to the booth and vote...if you need more people on your side, stand up for sportspeople and get people on your side by showing them we are ethical and safe. If that doesn't work....don't move to my state is all I ask! We already have enough people moving in!!!
Wal-Mart here supports our sportspeople and they are active in helping us conserve the land around us for not only hunting, but fishing as well. They even helped get a small "mom and pop" shop that is a range/handgun safety training school across the street through the red tape it took to build and open the joint.
The consumer directs the marketing, and it just sounds like you have some more non-sportspeople than you have sportspeople.
I love them because I can get all my ammo for cheaper, the clay pigeons are an out right steal, their tree stands are 25% less money out of my pocket and their gun cleaning supplies are UNGODLY cheaper than the 2 sportsmans wearhouses, blacksheep and the future Cabelas that is being built as we speak.
They suck for fishing gear, but that's alright cause I don't mind supporting some of the other sporting good stores in the area as well.
ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool
Walmart sucks! I'd rather spend the extra dollar and shop elsewhere! [:'(] Shop somewhere that supports us as Sportsman!
Walmart sucks! I'd rather spend the extra dollar and shop elsewhere! [:'(] Shop somewhere that supports us as Sportsman!
If you are that fired up about your states gun laws...go to the booth and vote...if you need more people on your side, stand up for sportspeople and get people on your side by showing them we are ethical and safe. If that doesn't work....don't move to my state is all I ask! We already have enough people moving in!!!
Wal-Mart here supports our sportspeople and they are active in helping us conserve the land around us for not only hunting, but fishing as well. They even helped get a small "mom and pop" shop that is a range/handgun safety training school across the street through the red tape it took to build and open the joint.
The consumer directs the marketing, and it just sounds like you have some more non-sportspeople than you have sportspeople.
I love them because I can get all my ammo for cheaper, the clay pigeons are an out right steal, their tree stands are 25% less money out of my pocket and their gun cleaning supplies are UNGODLY cheaper than the 2 sportsmans wearhouses, blacksheep and the future Cabelas that is being built as we speak.
They suck for fishing gear, but that's alright cause I don't mind supporting some of the other sporting good stores in the area as well.
03-11-2007, 08:49 PM
#35
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
RE: Walmart
Yep they did. Yep it's sad. Yep I still shop there. Yep the hunting section was much smaller this year. Yep I still managed to get 9 thunderheads for $4.50.Yep the store is tightening up. What business isn't these days?
Yep the store is tightening up. What business isn't these days?
03-12-2007, 07:05 AM
#36
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,828
RE: Walmart
ORIGINAL: turkey guide
Yes gunmakers do let factory seconds out the door. Now days they admit it and market them as such instead of shipping them along with huge orders to discount retailers and hoping nobody noticed, which of course most people don't. The best example I can think of offhand is a very high end weapon, the Armalite AR-10's and 15's, Which have been marketed forseveral years now as Eagle Arms. If the receivers or anything else have a flaw, they are built and stamped as Eagle Arms and sold cheaper. They are built to the same standards as Armalite Rifles on the same machines and assembly lineand shoot just as well but may have a cosmetic flaw and are not guaranteed the same. The thing is, they freely admit it and tell you upfront why you are paying 1/3rd less. I heard this first from an Armalitefactory rep at an NRA convention and Eagle Arms Stamped rifles came on the market a year or two later. This is easily confirmed by checking the Armalite/Eagle Arms website, and or calling them. Many other manufacturers probably all of them have sold firearms for less money under different names, and available only at certain hardware or discount stores willing to accept and sell them under their own name. They are not always bad guns, just not perfect guns and don't bear the Big Brand name. An Armalite second is never sold as an Armalite. Technically the substandard parts are sold to EagleArms and become their top of the line first quality guns, but theyARE Armalite seconds. Parts that don't meetEagles standards either, may be sold unmarked to any other manufacturer who wants them andwill become something else. Seconds, thirds and so on do make it out the door and onto the market.
Yes gunmakers do let factory seconds out the door. Now days they admit it and market them as such instead of shipping them along with huge orders to discount retailers and hoping nobody noticed, which of course most people don't. The best example I can think of offhand is a very high end weapon, the Armalite AR-10's and 15's, Which have been marketed forseveral years now as Eagle Arms. If the receivers or anything else have a flaw, they are built and stamped as Eagle Arms and sold cheaper. They are built to the same standards as Armalite Rifles on the same machines and assembly lineand shoot just as well but may have a cosmetic flaw and are not guaranteed the same. The thing is, they freely admit it and tell you upfront why you are paying 1/3rd less. I heard this first from an Armalitefactory rep at an NRA convention and Eagle Arms Stamped rifles came on the market a year or two later. This is easily confirmed by checking the Armalite/Eagle Arms website, and or calling them. Many other manufacturers probably all of them have sold firearms for less money under different names, and available only at certain hardware or discount stores willing to accept and sell them under their own name. They are not always bad guns, just not perfect guns and don't bear the Big Brand name. An Armalite second is never sold as an Armalite. Technically the substandard parts are sold to EagleArms and become their top of the line first quality guns, but theyARE Armalite seconds. Parts that don't meetEagles standards either, may be sold unmarked to any other manufacturer who wants them andwill become something else. Seconds, thirds and so on do make it out the door and onto the market.
Can't say that I've seen many AR10s and AR15s in too many Walmarts lately.....What I'm saying is the Remington 870 Express, 1187s, the Savage 270 and 243s, and Mossbergs are alll the same being sold at Walmart as the ones in the big box sporting goods stores or your home town mom and pop gun shops. Granted the selection is not as good at Walmart and I doubt they special order a gun for you but I believe the same guns Walmart sales are the same you can buy anywhere and not "seconds". I haven't ever bought a gun at Walmart, even before they quit selling them in my area.
03-19-2007, 08:11 PM
#38
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Portage WI/Racine WI
Posts: 2,320
RE: Walmart
As an update on this, I was home for spring break and the Wal-Mart in my town stopped selling guns, and it almost appears they may be closing out their fishing stuff too, they had a ton of it on clearance. If I wasn't so disgusted with them now I would have bought some new fishing stuff.
03-20-2007, 10:01 AM
#40
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Portage WI/Racine WI
Posts: 2,320
RE: Walmart
ORIGINAL: Silent_Death
I have a brother who is in management with Wal-Mart and he informed me that all Wal-Mart stores will be stopping the sale of guns.
I have a brother who is in management with Wal-Mart and he informed me that all Wal-Mart stores will be stopping the sale of guns.
