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Old 02-15-2009, 03:55 AM
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Friday, January 16, 2009

Why the Obama White House May Go to the Dogs
(and the Cows, and the Deer, and the Lab Rats)
Forget about Barack Obama's income tax-challenged Treasury Secretary or the conflict of interest controversy at the State Department. The most outrageous Obama appointee just might be Cass Sunstein, a Harvard Law School professor who's flying under everyone's radar and into a job that hardly anyone has ever heard of <
http://www.townhallmail.com/peoipqpz_eeuntur.html> .
Cass Sunstein is slated to run the White House's Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. He's going to be America's chief "regulatory czar." And shocking new research from the Center for Consumer Freedom <
http://www.townhallmail.com/logfzszf_eeuntur.html> shows that he's a dedicated animal-rights zealot. <http://www.townhallmail.com/ixebtkte_eeuntur.html>
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Hold on to your sirloin.
The anti-meat nuts at People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) <
http://www.townhallmail.com/tujevxzx_eeuntur.html> and the anti-hunting lobbyists at the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) <http://www.townhallmail.com/dzywgcqz_eeuntur.html> used to think that putting Dennis Kucinich in the White House would be their best hope of wielding real power in Washington . But even they didn't see Cass Sunstein coming. Sunstein has the legal mind of Chief Justice John Roberts and the animal-rights agenda of PETA president Ingrid Newkirk <http://www.townhallmail.com/ixebtkac_eeuntur.html> .
We're not talking about animal welfare---the idea of making sure we don't cause animals unnecessary suffering when we use them for food, clothing, entertainment, or lifesaving medical research. Sunstein believes in animal rights---the notion that people shouldn't "own" or "use" animals at all <
http://www.townhallmail.com/nrbodxnu_eeuntur.html> , for any purpose, no matter what the stakes are for mankind.
Cancer research? Not if lab rats are used against their will.
Hunting? Absolutely forbidden, especially if it's for sport.
Leather jackets? The cows need their skin more that you do.
Seeing-eye dogs? They're nothing more than slaves.
And that T-bone steak? Fuhgeddaboudit! If animals have any "rights" at all, the right to not be your dinner is at the top of the list.
All of this makes perfect sense to Cass Sunstein, who organized the "Chicago Project on Animal Treatment Principles" at the University of Chicago. He will soon have the political authority to push for a radical overhaul of the way the federal government regulates everything Americans do with animals.
How radical? Sunstein supports making sport hunting illegal, and completely phasing out the consumption of meat. And if that's not nutty enough, he's actually in favor of giving animals the legal right to sue people. <
http://www.townhallmail.com/uqgfbawp_eeuntur.html>
Think we're joking? Think again. Here's what Sunstein wrote in his 2004 book, Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions <
http://www.townhallmail.com/nrbodxnd_eeuntur.html> :
"[A]nimals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives ... Any animals that are entitled to bring suit would be represented by (human) counsel, who would owe guardian like obligations and make decisions, subject to those obligations, on their clients' behalf."
Conservative commentators have been openly fretting that Barack Obama may try to turn welfare entitlements and single-payer healthcare into a new Bill of Rights. But Cass Sunstein threatens to expand the whole concept of "rights" to include the rest of the animal kingdom.
That fish wriggling at the end of your hook could soon be a federal offense (if the fish doesn't file a lawsuit first). Don't say we didn't warn you.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:20 AM
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I'm a natural cynic (a necessary component of any scientist's character) - so I went to the link to look at the book. I don't know who Sunstein is.There wasan apparentlypositive reference (but perhaps "selected" or taken out of context?) from the journal "Science", which is not a haven for animal rights activists, (after all, many of its members would be out of business without test animals) and a positive reference (same caveats) from the World Wildlife Fund, which is a group that isleft of where I am, but still often partnerswith hunters(http://www.worldwildlife.org/what/howwedoit/policy/WWFBinaryitem7112.pdf) and is not as a group "antihunter" (http://www.worldwildlife.org/climate/witnesses/item3776.html) except where harvest of endangered species occurs. So I thought that maybe bowman's source was being pretty one-sided about the book, which might be balanced coverage with opinions from both sides. Like many books with a scientific bent, different chapters are written by different authors, and perhaps some were written by animal rights activists and some by opponents. So I looked at Chapter 1 (which you can read in its entirety on-line) and the table of contents, and I gotta say this does not appear to be balanced coverage. In the book's defense, one chapter is titled "All animals are NOT equal:the interface between scientific knowledge and legislation for animal rights." And itis hard to tell where some of the other chapters are going from onlytheir titles. But it seems pretty darn clear from the first chapter and from most of the rest of the chapter titles that this book is mostly espousing the views of PETA and their ilk. And the chapter by Sunstein is indeed about animals being able to sue! It is remotely possible that the quote that bowman's sourcecited is taken out of context, but there is enough here to convince me that bowman's source is right on the money about the book, and about Sunstein's position on animal rights.

I don't know anything about the position Sunstein has been appointed to, and if his views on animal rights will matter in that position. Perhaps he is God's gift to paper pushers and will be all right in the position to which he has been assigned. I don't necessarily think that a person with these kind of ideas is unemployable anywhere. But he definately sounds like someone to keep an eye on.
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