HuntingNet.com Forums

HuntingNet.com Forums (https://www.huntingnet.com/forum/)
-   Illinois Bowfishers Club (https://www.huntingnet.com/forum/illinois-bowfishers-club-77/)
-   -   Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp (https://www.huntingnet.com/forum/illinois-bowfishers-club/261916-need-help-cooking-eating-grass-carp.html)

David Hughes 09-07-2008 05:37 PM

Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
Ok, I am tired of turning all of the fish I kill into fertilizer. everything I have read on the web states that Grass Carp is great table fare. I cooked and ate some of the big grass carp that I shot last night. This was a large 44 lb grassie shot in the middle of summer(for Texas). the fish was very edible, but I would not put it anywhere near crappie or walleye.It reminded me of a 5-6 lb largemouth bass caught in the middle of summer.

My first dilemma is that I have about 15 lbs of meat left from this large fish. What can I do to make this fish more appealing to the palate? Should I only use smaller fish for table fare shot in the spring and early summer.

Is there anything I can soak this fish in to remove the fishy taste. Oh. I removed all of the red meat and mud line. I de-boned everything. I really want to make an effort to continue to eat this resource but it has to be appealing to the taste.

I would appreciate any input.



Fishhunter 09-07-2008 06:26 PM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
try cajun batter. Personally, I prefer grass carp to everything but buffalo

HNI_Christine 09-07-2008 06:45 PM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
Don't eat the +40lbers. Eat the 15-25 lb ones. Less fat, hence, less fishy taste. :)

carptracker 09-07-2008 09:16 PM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
Christine is right. Really big ones can be marginal eating. I recently cooked up a 50 pound black carp and it frankly was terrible, but I really like the fifteen pounders - they are just like grass carp. I have not tried a grass carp over 30 pounds, but that is about the size they get a bit weird. The flavor gets stronger, and the fascia between the myomeres becomes thick enough to notice. I have done the same thing with redfish - when they get huge like that, that fascia becomes noticeable, and it is not something you really want to notice.


Also - grass carp are not immune to picking up off-flavors that result from bluegreen algae blooms. Of course, catfish are famous for that too. You might notice a bluegreen bloom - some kinds form a thick layer of green near the surface, and your boat will sometimes leave a clear-water track through it. But not all kinds of bluegreens act that way. It can happen at any time of year. Not terribly common, but results in nasty fish sometimes.

David Hughes 09-08-2008 12:02 PM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 

ORIGINAL: carptracker

Christine is right. Really big ones can be marginal eating. I recently cooked up a 50 pound black carp and it frankly was terrible, but I really like the fifteen pounders - they are just like grass carp. I have not tried a grass carp over 30 pounds, but that is about the size they get a bit weird. The flavor gets stronger, and the fascia between the myomeres becomes thick enough to notice. I have done the same thing with redfish - when they get huge like that, that fascia becomes noticeable, and it is not something you really want to notice.


Also - grass carp are not immune to picking up off-flavors that result from bluegreen algae blooms. Of course, catfish are famous for that too. You might notice a bluegreen bloom - some kinds form a thick layer of green near the surface, and your boat will sometimes leave a clear-water track through it. But not all kinds of bluegreens act that way. It can happen at any time of year. Not terribly common, but results in nasty fish sometimes.
Thanks for the info. Is there anything I can do with the meat from the 44lb fish that is in my freezer. Is there a marinade or method of cooking that will make it better tasting or should I just make fertilizer?

Is the fascia the white lines that appear between the layers of meat?

carpsniper 09-08-2008 12:37 PM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
Kudos to you David and all who try to utilize their catch for food.

Just remember, there's nothing wrong with turning these un-utilized and under-utilized and invasive fish into vegatables.

Fishhunter 09-08-2008 06:22 PM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
I fixed some of the large black carp Carptracker had, and it was good. Not as good as grassie, but good. Trick was to fillet it real thin so it will fry up good. There are also marinades. I hesitate to give mine out - going to open a restaraunt based on it when I retire.

fishpoint 09-08-2008 07:38 PM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
I posted this recipe previously:
1. Wrap the fillets in newspaper with lemon, pepper, and salt.
2. Wrap in aluminum foil.
3. Cook on medium on a gas grill for 10 minutes.
4. Unwrap the fillets, throw them in the garbage, and eat the newspaper OR give them Christine and Kendall to be used as fertilizer. (I added this last step)

carptracker 09-09-2008 10:49 AM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 

ORIGINAL: David Hughes
Is the fascia the white lines that appear between the layers of meat?
Yup. That stuff can get nasty on real big fish. And the meat itself becomes more coarse, too. When I grilled some really large black carp, I could not get anyone but me to eat it at all, more than a few bites. I ended up taking the rest of the grilled fish and making a fish salad from it. Even then, I could tell the fascia was there, but it was not too bad. My guess is that fish will never be top-notch, but it probably beats Micky D's. Depends what you want to do with it, I guess. For an invasive species, better out of the water than in, in any case. If you don't like it, the compost heap seems like the way to go.

I've had some other really large fish that we just never ate, in the end. I killed a real wallhanger-size trophy red drum (48 pounds) once for food and have regretted it ever since, because I never could find a way to make it good to eat.

This comes from a guyhaving common carp caviarfor lunch as I type; I am more open to unusual dishes than most.

SWEET LOU 09-13-2008 08:46 AM

RE: Need help cooking and eating Grass Carp
 
I think I'll tryfish point's recipe!

Wolftalon 06-08-2016 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by carptracker (Post 2952175)
Yup. That stuff can get nasty on real big fish. And the meat itself becomes more coarse, too. When I grilled some really large black carp, I could not get anyone but me to eat it at all, more than a few bites. I ended up taking the rest of the grilled fish and making a fish salad from it. Even then, I could tell the fascia was there, but it was not too bad. My guess is that fish will never be top-notch, but it probably beats Micky D's. Depends what you want to do with it, I guess. For an invasive species, better out of the water than in, in any case. If you don't like it, the compost heap seems like the way to go.

I've had some other really large fish that we just never ate, in the end. I killed a real wallhanger-size trophy red drum (48 pounds) once for food and have regretted it ever since, because I never could find a way to make it good to eat.

This comes from a guyhaving common carp caviarfor lunch as I type; I am more open to unusual dishes than most.

Drum is pretty good with Cajun batter and fried in veggy oil

JoeA 06-13-2016 02:32 PM

You might look at recipes for fish cake. Run the fish through a food processor and mix in some cooked rice to help bind it. The add some things like green onion, jalapenos, bell peppers, finely diced celery, garlic and some seasonings to taste.


Spread the mixture onto parchment paper and roll into logs a few inches long. Tie with butcher's twine, and let sit in fridge overnight. Then put the wrapped logs in a large covered pot with .5" to .75" of water, and steam for 20mins.


You can also add some peeled shrimp or diced calamari squid to the fish mix before chopping it in the processor.

LONGHUNTER1750 06-14-2016 06:04 AM

My grandma would can it then make it like salmon patties, was hard to tell the difference between it and real salmon.

Oldtimr 08-12-2017 11:09 AM

Put it in the smoker and smoke it with alder wood. You will have to brine it first. Look up smoking salmon recipes on google.

JSad 05-16-2018 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by LONGHUNTER1750 (Post 4261864)
My grandma would can it then make it like salmon patties, was hard to tell the difference between it and real salmon.

My sister does that. And you are right, salmon patties and carp patties are hard to tell apart.....but I smoke most of mine. Cut out the red meat and throw it away. If you soak it in brine overnight I find it helps too. Smoked carp is good provided you throw away that dark red meat just under the skin. Most people do not like its texture or flavor, but the rest is good.

JSad 05-16-2018 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Oldtimr (Post 4313230)
Put it in the smoker and smoke it with alder wood. You will have to brine it first. Look up smoking salmon recipes on google.

I like a mixture of 75% maple and 25% hickory, but I haven't tried alder, it doesn't grow here.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:28 AM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.