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HunterSled 11-01-2013 01:05 AM

Warning about Rich's Hunting Adventures
 
Just a warning to my fellow hunters - I booked a hunt in Craig Colorado in January of this year with Rich Botta of Rich's Hunting Adventures out of New York. I gave him a $2000.00 deposit. He cashed my check. After ten months with no response to e-mails, calls, or texts, two weeks before the hunt, he tells me he has no hunts in Craig. Says I can hunt in Mexico! No offer made to hunt in the U.S. as a replacement. I asked for my deposit back, he texted “lol”. He has kept my deposit.

Sled Reynolds

WV Hunter 11-01-2013 03:12 AM

Sorry to hear that.
Sounds like maybe you should have done some more homework. Did you book with a middleman out of NY to hunt out west? Personally, if I was ever going to book a hunt, it would be directly with the outfitter and I'd have a ton of references. Hope you get a refund (unlikely) or at least get to hunt. If not, take them to court.

MZS 11-01-2013 03:49 AM

Report this crook on http://bowsite.com/bowsite/outfitter...?reportid=2438

Night Crawler 11-01-2013 05:39 AM

For $2k deposite I hope you have some documentaion. Save your texts and get a bank statement, go to you attorney. Eff that crap.

olsaltydog 11-01-2013 05:46 AM

Keep all correspondents and head to a lawyer,

This is my edit:
While I wont question whether this is honest or not I do notice after taking a look around that you have blasted this as your first and only post on dozens of sites. Most likely not a smart move on your part even though if true can completely understand your anger.

Murby 11-01-2013 09:50 AM

Contact the BBB.org and file a complaint. (He has an "F" rating already! WORST there is and you should have seen that before sending him your money)
Go to RipOffReport.com and tell your story.
Go to every hunting forum you can find on the internet and repeat this post.
Go to HIS local craigslist.org and the closest three or four around him and repeat this post every week.
If you paid via a credit card, call your credit card company.. They will yank the money from his account so fast it will spin like a quarter on a table.. I'm not sure if this will work in your situation because of the 10 month time but you can try.. They may not start the proverbial clock until delivery.. or perhaps time of purchase.

Murby 11-01-2013 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by WV Hunter (Post 4093919)
If not, take them to court.

Is that a joke?

While it is technically possible to take the guy to court, it would probably cost $20,000 in legal fees and even if he won, it doesn't guarantee he can collect.

Now if the guy is local to you, that's a different story.

Murby 11-01-2013 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by olsaltydog (Post 4093953)
you have blasted this as your first and only post on dozens of sites. Most likely not a smart move on your part even though if true can completely understand your anger.

Why not a smart move? That's exactly what the internet is for.. (besides great porn of course)..

The sharing of information.. hard to beat an Amazon review.... not much different here..

Night Crawler 11-01-2013 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Murby (Post 4094040)
Is that a joke?

While it is technically possible to take the guy to court, it would probably cost $20,000 in legal fees and even if he won, it doesn't guarantee he can collect.

Now if the guy is local to you, that's a different story.

Not true all it cost is 150 $ or so to file a civil suite. A lawyer to handle it would be under a grand. If he one the guy that screwed him would pay all fees as well as money owed.

I know I just went through one.

Murby 11-01-2013 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Night Crawler (Post 4094047)
Not true all it cost is 150 $ or so to file a civil suite. A lawyer to handle it would be under a grand. If he one the guy that screwed him would pay all fees as well as money owed.

I know I just went through one.

Plaintiff files suit.. Filing costs $150
Lawyer charges $1000 for 4hrs of his time at an average of $250/hr.
Plaintiff answers lawsuit contesting it.
Judge orders pretrial negotiations to attempt to resolve it early.
Plaintiff's delays pretrial for whatever stupid reason they can come up with.
Lawyer asks for another $1000.
Pretrial negotiations take place with no result.
Then we have discovery and depositions.
Lawyer says its going to drag out for a bit more.. Need another $5000.

See where this is going? I comes down to the state laws.. In states where the loser must pay winners legal fees, this crap doesn't happen... but in states where each side is responsible for their own fees, it is the rule, not the exception.

And, if the defendant has a relative or good friend who is a lawyer, then you're really screwed.

Our legal system is a joke.. the only lawsuits that work are those in the high five figures or more. Under $10k? Forget it...


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