Lookin' for a good long range coyote rifle!
05-11-2004, 01:23 AM
#21
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Posts: 194
RE: Lookin' for a good long range coyote rifle!
Wow, I haven't been on the internet in 3 days and look at all the fun I missed.
I didn't come here to start a fight, but I personally don't care for someone questioning my integrity or implying that I am a "wanna be."
dep214, I was giving info as requested and I included where and how I obtained that info. Perhaps I wasn't detailed enough for you.
In 1991 I joined the USMC, after 3 years I did a lateral transfer into the Army. In 1994 I went to SFAS (that is Special Forces Assessment and Selection for you civilians) that was conducted at Camp McCall, North Carolina. I was selected and in 1995 I graduated the 18B course (Weapons Sgt.) at Fort Bragg, NC at the JFKSWCS (John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School). In May 2000, I attended Scout-Sniper School at Camp J. T. Robinson, in North Little Rock, AR. My instructors conisted of one Marine who served as a sniper in vietnam, one SF Sniper who served in Bosnia, and a couple other instructors who shot competively. From early March 2002 until late July 2002, my team/ODA was sent to Afghanistan where we conducted operations mainly in the Khost and Jallalabad area where I had the opportunity to actually use the skills taught to me. My enlistment ended in 2003 and I left the Army an E-7/SFC.
dep214, I do know my way around a rifle and I for one would appreciate it if you would keep your derogatory statements to yourself. Feel free to PM me anytime if you need me to clarify anything for you, I think I would enjoy it.
You say that sniping has nothing to do with hunting. I beg to differ!
I didn't come here to start a fight, but I personally don't care for someone questioning my integrity or implying that I am a "wanna be."
dep214, I was giving info as requested and I included where and how I obtained that info. Perhaps I wasn't detailed enough for you.
In 1991 I joined the USMC, after 3 years I did a lateral transfer into the Army. In 1994 I went to SFAS (that is Special Forces Assessment and Selection for you civilians) that was conducted at Camp McCall, North Carolina. I was selected and in 1995 I graduated the 18B course (Weapons Sgt.) at Fort Bragg, NC at the JFKSWCS (John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School). In May 2000, I attended Scout-Sniper School at Camp J. T. Robinson, in North Little Rock, AR. My instructors conisted of one Marine who served as a sniper in vietnam, one SF Sniper who served in Bosnia, and a couple other instructors who shot competively. From early March 2002 until late July 2002, my team/ODA was sent to Afghanistan where we conducted operations mainly in the Khost and Jallalabad area where I had the opportunity to actually use the skills taught to me. My enlistment ended in 2003 and I left the Army an E-7/SFC.
dep214, I do know my way around a rifle and I for one would appreciate it if you would keep your derogatory statements to yourself. Feel free to PM me anytime if you need me to clarify anything for you, I think I would enjoy it.
You say that sniping has nothing to do with hunting. I beg to differ!
05-11-2004, 05:44 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MB.
Posts: 2,984
RE: Lookin' for a good long range coyote rifle!
Dep214, Lots of information is given on this site, it’s up to the individual to filter what is valid and as for some one to claim they are some one that they are not, it’s not up to you or I to judge. I not going to continue to fuel your fire.............so have a nice day.
05-11-2004, 07:42 AM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 1,766
RE: Lookin' for a good long range coyote rifle!
I think 4400 fps with a 50 grain bullet fired from a factory Remington 22-250 is a little optimistic. If you can get 4000 fps with no high pressure signs then you are fortunate.
] I will correct the post above. I do know that we were getting over 4000 with the 50 though.
I will try to post both loads tonight. They are not in the books as they are quite a bit over the recommended load. Also I switched to a CCI bench rest primer and that uped the speed by almost 150fps. That is where the extra fps came from. If you have never tried them I would recommend them in a controlled environment. We always start just below what the reloading manual states as a max and work up until we can't get any more powder in the case. If we start to see problems I just use the bullet puller and break down the loads above where when problem started. If no problem is noticed then we keep going.
05-11-2004, 12:42 PM
#24
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: arlington texas USA
Posts: 810
RE: Lookin' for a good long range coyote rifle!
plb-
what does hunting have to do with being a snaiper?absolutely nothing! a animal can never shoot back.it seems as if anyone that that gives advice on a subject they immediately become an expert.some even like to say they are pros.give me break.i have seen people that have retired from the military and they never brag or boast that they did something.hunting animals and hunting humans is not different?give me a break.
what does hunting have to do with being a snaiper?absolutely nothing! a animal can never shoot back.it seems as if anyone that that gives advice on a subject they immediately become an expert.some even like to say they are pros.give me break.i have seen people that have retired from the military and they never brag or boast that they did something.hunting animals and hunting humans is not different?give me a break.
05-11-2004, 06:05 PM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 1,766
RE: Lookin' for a good long range coyote rifle!
Here is my reloading info for the Remington 700 .22-250 shown above:
Case Winchester
Nosler 40gr
Varget powder 41 gr
CCI Bench Rest Primer
Speed 4415 max
Ave speed 4372
Case Winchester
Nosler 50gr
Varget powder 41 gr
CCI Bench Rest Primer
Speed 4065 max
Ave speed 4058
Case Winchester
Nosler 40gr
H380 powder 42gr
CCI Bench Rest Primer
Speed 4231 max
Ave speed 4219
I did not test the 50 gr nosler with the H380. I am sorry I misstated above. These are the results right off the sheets we recorded on at the range on 12-20-03.
I am aware that they are over the max in the reloading manual and we did approach them slowly checking for excessive pressure. I would not recommend anybody starting with these loads. We did also subsitute the bench rest primer for the cci magnum rifle primer. This gave us and extra 141 fps increase with the H380 powder. But it only gave us an increase of about 32 fps with the varget.
This showed us that you need to test several loads with your gun and see what it shoots the best.
Case Winchester
Nosler 40gr
Varget powder 41 gr
CCI Bench Rest Primer
Speed 4415 max
Ave speed 4372
Case Winchester
Nosler 50gr
Varget powder 41 gr
CCI Bench Rest Primer
Speed 4065 max
Ave speed 4058
Case Winchester
Nosler 40gr
H380 powder 42gr
CCI Bench Rest Primer
Speed 4231 max
Ave speed 4219
I did not test the 50 gr nosler with the H380. I am sorry I misstated above. These are the results right off the sheets we recorded on at the range on 12-20-03.
I am aware that they are over the max in the reloading manual and we did approach them slowly checking for excessive pressure. I would not recommend anybody starting with these loads. We did also subsitute the bench rest primer for the cci magnum rifle primer. This gave us and extra 141 fps increase with the H380 powder. But it only gave us an increase of about 32 fps with the varget.
This showed us that you need to test several loads with your gun and see what it shoots the best.
06-16-2011, 07:32 PM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Southeast Missouri
Posts: 2,178
Long Range Coyote Rifle:
Currently I'm using my Browning A-bolt Hunter in a .243 with 100 grain bullets since I use the same Rifle for Deer Hunting.Last year I shot 4 different Coyotes,3 were out to 100-125 yards and 1 was within 60-75 yards.I have been Coyote Hunting with a Partner that is using a Ruger .22 Hornet and I'm getting ready to order a CZ-USA Model 527 in the American or Varmint in a .204...these Rifles can carry out very far and usually shoot a 32,39 or 40 grain bullet.Other Rifles that seem to be great long range shooters are the Remington 17 Fireball,the .220 Swift and I'm thinking there's .221 also?I'll check and see what Caliber a few other Long Range Hunters I know are using.
Currently I'm using my Browning A-bolt Hunter in a .243 with 100 grain bullets since I use the same Rifle for Deer Hunting.Last year I shot 4 different Coyotes,3 were out to 100-125 yards and 1 was within 60-75 yards.I have been Coyote Hunting with a Partner that is using a Ruger .22 Hornet and I'm getting ready to order a CZ-USA Model 527 in the American or Varmint in a .204...these Rifles can carry out very far and usually shoot a 32,39 or 40 grain bullet.Other Rifles that seem to be great long range shooters are the Remington 17 Fireball,the .220 Swift and I'm thinking there's .221 also?I'll check and see what Caliber a few other Long Range Hunters I know are using.
