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scent lok
what do you all think of scent lok? does it work? thinking bout buying some not sure what I want to buy yet.
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Yes , ScentLok™ will adsorb scent for awhile , but not permanently . Don't believe that "recharge in any dryer crapola either , it isn't scientifically possible .
A good way to try out carbon gear would be to get a couple of mil issue MOPP suits , you can find a jacket/pants set at Sportsman's Guide for $15 . Use the search bar on the left side of the homepage to search for "chemical suits" . Hang them outside right before a rain to let the water wash off the "factory smell" , then air dry and pack them away in a scent free bag of some sort until ready to use . DO NOT PUT A MOPP SUIT IN THE WASHING MACHINE ! You can wear the suit for 1-2 weeks before discarding it if you keep the outside of it uncontaminated or at least scent covered , they have a huge amount of carbon in them . After descenting them as described above , pick a cool morning to try one out on a photo safari . Deliberately try to approach deer from varrying degrees of upwind approach . The first time I wore one a foursome of does walked to within feet of me as I sat in an ordinary black cloth folding chair . The suit was plain old Woodland camo pattern . Besides wearing the carbon suit the only other precaution I had taken was a shower with scent free bodywash and a Fresh Earth cover scent spray all over . They had no clue that I was there until I moved and the wind was in their favor . I have also used this pattern with equal success , and the built in suspenders were a nice touch:British DPM |
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john, save your money for hunting gear that you really need. A new bow, rain gear or maybe a range finder.
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I agree they work to a certain extent, but have still been nailed while wearing them. I wear Scent Lok Dakota and I think it helps, but doesnt totally eliminate.
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I think that if you bow hunt a lot it is worth the money. I think it works very well but it is not 100%. The important thing is to keep it sealed up in a scent free bag untill just before you go out and take it off as soon as you get in. It is important to keep the outside of the scent lock scent free as well. I have the Scent Lock Savana series and I really like it.
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I feel it makes a difference too. It's not 100%. You still need to have the wind right, but I feel it helps when the wind is shifty, or swirling. I'll be buying some more this year.
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I saved my money, B/c while it may work intially after that no way to release the molecules from the carbon. Like Kevin already mentioned scientifically impossible to acheive what they "STATE" with clothes dryer. Also the fact my wifey insists on using those pretty smelling sheets in the dryer my hunting clothes have never seen one nor will unless I either find a new wife or dryer...lol!
Let see last fall I attempted a stalked on a bull moose only to get busted by unseen cow/calf pair(not scented but rather walked up on them in a bowl), which bumped the bull at a fast rate back to the pines. I then made the trek back to my call spot and was dripping with sweat, less than an hour later I called in a dropped another Bull Moose with a light breeze that had switched on me somewhat unfavorably in midst of luring him to offer a shot. End result was a dead bull less than 100 yards away...no scent loc. It turned out the wind was blowing right towards the point I dropped him on (didn't really realize it until I got to the bull). So does this mean I should now just hunt in my sweaty clothes and forget the wind?? No of course not! Sh!t happens and often unexplained when it comes to why an animal did this or that on a particular day. So to me the price tag for scent loc simply isn't worth it, as I hunt the wind and in the those cases where things happen out of your control, realize sometimes your the BOOT and others your the A$$, regardless of what you may or may not be wearing. I will say though if you feel more confident as a hunter with Scent loc, etc then their is no such thing as wasted money to you personally, I am a firm believer in confidence being a key! So you must deciede, as their is clearly 2 camps with this and many issues in the hunting world[&:] Best of luck |
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A MOPP suit?
Brilliant! You might also consider using an internal deodorant in conjunction with scentless soap / laundry detergent and some common sense steps to avoid contaminating yourself [don't suit up for the hunt and then run down to the corner and fill up your truck - spilling gasoline on yourself]. I use a product called Nullo - its is super-concentrated tablets of a copper chlorophyll complex. Nullo should not be compared with Alphalfa derived chlorophyll extracts as found in the health food store... Nullo has a clinical use history as a pharmacological product, having been used for years in hospitals and long term care facilities for incontinence and colostomy patients. Amazing stuff... it is now also being sold for chronic body odor, bad breath, and foot odor control. Dose yourself up for a few days and it'll make a major dent in the source of your scent [you], working from the inside out. http://www.nullo.com The manufacturer sells direct from their website, but the best price I have found on the web is here: http://tinyurl.com/8fs5w Please post if you have found a better one. |
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yes it works, anything that help reduce our scent is a plus. Nothing is 100% but I'm a believer! One important point makes sure you use a scentlok face mask as we know most of our scent is emitted from our breathing and head. I use the full head net and love it, it has a mesh over the hears so your hearing isn't impaired.
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Think of it as being like Gore-tex you don't Need it but it is very nice to have. When you invest $500 to $1000 in a bow and gear for it, spending $250 on camo Scent lok is a minor investment. Look how much money waterfowl hunters spend on waterproof clothing $200- $500 for a parka and bibs, do they need it, No but it definitely helps. When you get as close to the action as bow hunting Scent lok helps a lot, it is a very rare occasion that I get winded anymore and my father has used it since it first came out. He has since then got newer Scent lok and it does last for a number of years.
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ORIGINAL: kevin1 Yes , ScentLok™ will adsorb scent for awhile , but not permanently . Don't believe that "recharge in any dryer crapola either , it isn't scientifically possible . British DPM I would like to read some of that information. Any idea where I might find some? Most of what I've read is nothing more than "because I said so" kind of info of which I don't find too impressive. |
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ORIGINAL: nodog ORIGINAL: kevin1 Yes , ScentLok™ will adsorb scent for awhile , but not permanently . Don't believe that "recharge in any dryer crapola either , it isn't scientifically possible . British DPM I would like to read some of that information. Any idea where I might find some? Most of what I've read is nothing more than "because I said so" kind of info of which I don't find too impressive. This is the principal reason why I buy MOPP suits , they're cheap and disposable . They can be worn under thin camo clothing if you want a particular pattern other than Woodland or plain olive drab . Personally , after airing them out I just wear them as is . |
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ORIGINAL: johndeer44 what do you all think of scent lok? does it work? thinking bout buying some not sure what I want to buy yet. With that in mind, If you hike much, even a little bit, it's worthless in my opinion. Yah, it helps, but to what extent and for how long? So the animal smells you just a little bit? Bottomline, he still smells you. Your mouth alone is a stink bug and a little hike will put a few drops of stink in places your scent suit wont stop. I mostly chase Mulies and Elk all day and I think it's a pure rip off for that type of hunting/hiking. Personally, even if you sit in a stand all day, I'd save my money. Like someone else said, spend it on Gore-tex or something. That fabric is hands down proven and #1 if you even think of getting wet. Gore-tex and wool, the only two hunting apparel products I'll spend the extra money on. I say, be scent smart. Learn how the body creates scent and where. You can still be scent smart and knock down alot of scent w/o those lousy suits by just spending a little money on the other major scent areas, etc. Finally, the 3 most important things about scent control: Wind.. Wind.. Wind |
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I'm curious. All the people that said save your money, they dont work. Have you even tried them, or are you restating what you have heard from other hunters? I for one am a big fan of scent loc/block clothing. It has saved me on more than one occasion from swirling winds and deer who decided to come down wind of my set up. The number one reason the suit fails is because people fail to use it properly. One you must use the complete system, head net, top, bottom, gloves and rubber boots. If you put scent wafers in with your suit you will clog up the carbon with a foriegn oder. The botton line, nothing is 100% but if you can fool that mature buck even once then it is all worth it. Really it's a matter of opinion, but mine is if you want that extra edge than it's worth it. just my 2 cents:)
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ORIGINAL: PYseeker I'm curious. All the people that said save your money, they dont work. Have you even tried them, or are you restating what you have heard from other hunters? In my case it's personal experience . I've gone out covered from head to toe with carbon and not got busted the first time a deer crossed the wind near me . The second time , despite meticulous washing and protection from contamination , I got busted . Carbon isn't forever , it clogs pretty quickly regardless of what the manufacturer says or how well you treat the garments . I for one am a big fan of scent loc/block clothing. It has saved me on more than one occasion from swirling winds and deer who decided to come down wind of my set up. The number one reason the suit fails is because people fail to use it properly. One you must use the complete system, head net, top, bottom, gloves and rubber boots. Hook , line , and sinker ... ;) I honestly hope that you got all that gear for free , because it will fail eventualy , and much sooner than you think . The botton line, nothing is 100% but if you can fool that mature buck even once then it is all worth it. Really it's a matter of opinion, but mine is if you want that extra edge than it's worth it. just my 2 cents:) Sound advice , but I'll never spend what you did for all that fancy crap just to find out as long as Uncle Sam keeps making $15 MOPP suits , no deer is worth that to me . |
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ORIGINAL: PYseeker I'm curious. All the people that said save your money, they dont work. Have you even tried them, or are you restating what you have heard from other hunters? |
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[quote]ORIGINAL: kevin1
Sound advice , but I'll never spend what you did for all that fancy crap just to find out as long as Uncle Sam keeps making $15 MOPP suits , no deer is worth that to me . You are correct about the army MOPP suits they contain alot of carbon in them, but they are bulky, ucomfortable and when bowhunting are a hinderence to me. Plus after being in the army for 12 plus years I refuse to wear any military issue when enjoying my off time:) |
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ORIGINAL: papellet Heres a real good article on this issue. http://www.fastestbows.com/articles/...cent_suits.htm It could just be that because scent lok type suits don't give out much scientific info that others who would like to know and are just trying to get them to talk, like happens often with people. I don't know. I know when I'm being winded and have had opportunities to test the theory and can say that when I wore it 2 deer that had busted me a number of times in the past, one I sat next to for 2 hrs. and the other is in the freezer. It was evident that there was a change in things the first time I wore them. Will they work this season, will see. When so many people start worrying about me being duped it makes me a little nervous. |
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Hey if it,s something you think you need than get it. I tried it hated the head gear all I could hearwas it rubbing on my neck. It was hot and after i breathed in that mask for a few hours it smelt like i had a chitty pampers tied around my head. The clothing is noisy but really fashionable. Next time I will save my money and buy some breath mints and a cotton tee.
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Deer & Deer Hunting Magazine had a good article on carbon clothing two issues back. I use carbon clothing and I know that it works as long as Ipractice scent control. It's not 100%, but it's an added advantage. As for how long it's good for, I still use a suit I bought in 1999, I wash and dry it at the beginning, once during and at the end of the season, I then seal it in a scent proof bag. I don't beleive that when the manufactures tell you to recharge it in the dryer, they intend for you to completely recharge it as Kevin1 indicates. I KNOW THEY WORK FROM MY EXPERIANCE AS WELL AS OTHERS IN OUR CAMP. I have never heard anyone who has used carbon complain about it not working.
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One of the most important things to remember is that you have to keep the outside of your scent lok scent free also. You have to take it off right when you get done and don't put it on untill you are just about to go out. If you wear it eating breakfast and getting gas then it will not be effective. I can't tell you how many people I see durring hunting season wearing there camo at a resturant or getting gas etc. It is amazing half these people shoot anything.
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