Naw, Hogs don't charge!
#1
No, hogs don't charge huh. Well here are a few vid's to discredit that little piece of ignorant thinking.
http://clashdaily.com/2014/03/use-bi...er-close-call/
This one has some bad language so pardon. Guy misses both shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hYL9b-DcQ
This one took a few rounds from a .45.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b04_1337719658
This one came back for seconds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2jb-Khiq4
This is just a very few of the MANY I found doing a brief search online. Facts are facts. While yes a good many "charges" are just a hog trying to get away and the hunter is just in the way, but a great many are hogs trying to do damage! They can be, and a lot of times are, a highly aggressive animal. So all you guys and gals out there that have "hunted Africa" five times and think a hog doesn't charge, get a grip on reality folks. I don't need these video's to know they do because I have been charged more times than I care to remember and hit more than once. It's why I wear Kevlar gators whenever I am hunting in the thick stuff.
http://clashdaily.com/2014/03/use-bi...er-close-call/
This one has some bad language so pardon. Guy misses both shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hYL9b-DcQ
This one took a few rounds from a .45.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b04_1337719658
This one came back for seconds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2jb-Khiq4
This is just a very few of the MANY I found doing a brief search online. Facts are facts. While yes a good many "charges" are just a hog trying to get away and the hunter is just in the way, but a great many are hogs trying to do damage! They can be, and a lot of times are, a highly aggressive animal. So all you guys and gals out there that have "hunted Africa" five times and think a hog doesn't charge, get a grip on reality folks. I don't need these video's to know they do because I have been charged more times than I care to remember and hit more than once. It's why I wear Kevlar gators whenever I am hunting in the thick stuff.
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Don't believe anybody said a hog won't charge. But not every time a hog comes at someone means it is actually charging. Many times it is merely going in the direction its nose is pointed and sometimes that also happens to be where the hunter is standing. Flight doesn't equate to charge in every instance. And many charges are artificially caused. For instance:
I couldn't open the first and third links due to they are blocked at my work for some reason. But the second link clearly shows a game fence to the left which means the hog was restricted in where it could go. Also the hunter blows the first shot. The fourth clip is a driven hunt in Europe which means the hunter is positioned in the middle of known escape routes and the hogs are pushed by dogs which you can clearly hear at the end. Like the previous hunter, the first shot was blown. These are artificially cause charges since in neither case could the game move freely.
I couldn't open the first and third links due to they are blocked at my work for some reason. But the second link clearly shows a game fence to the left which means the hog was restricted in where it could go. Also the hunter blows the first shot. The fourth clip is a driven hunt in Europe which means the hunter is positioned in the middle of known escape routes and the hogs are pushed by dogs which you can clearly hear at the end. Like the previous hunter, the first shot was blown. These are artificially cause charges since in neither case could the game move freely.
#5
Sure a lot of charges are pure instinct. I'd say the vast majority of the time, that Hog is going to take off for the hills (or the deep brush). It's those exceptions you have to watch out for. My training in the military always comes to mind, if you are ambushed and there is no place to run and no place to hide, you only have one option left, "charge".
Hogs are about 50% predator, predators of opportunity.
I expect them to run, but I always have the thought in the back of my mind, maybe they won't. I've seen what a pack of Hogs can do to a Deer carcass, I sure as heck don't want to be that Deer carcass. Sure in most cases their first instinct is escape, but some have figured out they are one of the baddest Mofo's in the woods and act accordingly.
Not really relevant but somewhat. If they aren't afraid of me, I'm afraid of them. A little fear will keep you sharp and is a survival instinct. Also don't underestimate their powers of reasoning, I've been really impressed on numerous occasions.
I've watched a wise old sow lead her pack on a path that keeps them as far as possible from all the shooting towers.
I was on guard duty over a freshly harvested Strawberry field, with a truck load of strawberries ready to be picked up. The Sow lead the pack in to raid the Strawberries during the worst storm of the summer. And to make matters even worse, a big old Boar with his testicles dragging the ground followed the sounder. The last thing on my mind was climbing down that tree and arguing with that Sow (or Boar) about those strawberries. It is raining so hard I couldn't see 15 feet even with a high power flashlight. This wasn't an accident, this was a plan.
I went hunting for Roe Deer in the Czech Republic. I'd been there a week and my guide trusted me enough to send me out on my own. Maybe a two mile walk to the shooting tower and I'd left early (maybe 2:30 AM) so I could move slow (mid summer sunrise was early). Right in front of this summer mansion (multi-million dollar summer house way out in the middle of nowhere) with a large corral out front, I hear this god awful racket coming through the woods. I decide the best place for me right then was on top of the gate post for the corral. Biggest sounder (pack) I'd ever seen, maybe forty grown adults and double that counting first years and squeakers (if anything I'm under estimating). The head sow walks right up near my fence post and eyeballs me, no sign of fear at all. You could actually see the brain cells working. I sat there and watched them for over an hour, until they decided to move on, then I shot a straggler. I didn't get down off of that post for at least half an hour, after I was sure they weren't coming back. My guide gave me heck for not shooting more.
Side note, this corral was 8X8 rails with 14-16" posts and eight feet high. My guess is whomever owned the house had a pet Elephant.
It was really bazaar.
Hogs are about 50% predator, predators of opportunity.
I expect them to run, but I always have the thought in the back of my mind, maybe they won't. I've seen what a pack of Hogs can do to a Deer carcass, I sure as heck don't want to be that Deer carcass. Sure in most cases their first instinct is escape, but some have figured out they are one of the baddest Mofo's in the woods and act accordingly.
Not really relevant but somewhat. If they aren't afraid of me, I'm afraid of them. A little fear will keep you sharp and is a survival instinct. Also don't underestimate their powers of reasoning, I've been really impressed on numerous occasions.
I've watched a wise old sow lead her pack on a path that keeps them as far as possible from all the shooting towers.
I was on guard duty over a freshly harvested Strawberry field, with a truck load of strawberries ready to be picked up. The Sow lead the pack in to raid the Strawberries during the worst storm of the summer. And to make matters even worse, a big old Boar with his testicles dragging the ground followed the sounder. The last thing on my mind was climbing down that tree and arguing with that Sow (or Boar) about those strawberries. It is raining so hard I couldn't see 15 feet even with a high power flashlight. This wasn't an accident, this was a plan.
I went hunting for Roe Deer in the Czech Republic. I'd been there a week and my guide trusted me enough to send me out on my own. Maybe a two mile walk to the shooting tower and I'd left early (maybe 2:30 AM) so I could move slow (mid summer sunrise was early). Right in front of this summer mansion (multi-million dollar summer house way out in the middle of nowhere) with a large corral out front, I hear this god awful racket coming through the woods. I decide the best place for me right then was on top of the gate post for the corral. Biggest sounder (pack) I'd ever seen, maybe forty grown adults and double that counting first years and squeakers (if anything I'm under estimating). The head sow walks right up near my fence post and eyeballs me, no sign of fear at all. You could actually see the brain cells working. I sat there and watched them for over an hour, until they decided to move on, then I shot a straggler. I didn't get down off of that post for at least half an hour, after I was sure they weren't coming back. My guide gave me heck for not shooting more.
Side note, this corral was 8X8 rails with 14-16" posts and eight feet high. My guess is whomever owned the house had a pet Elephant.
It was really bazaar.
#6
Don't believe anybody said a hog won't charge. But not every time a hog comes at someone means it is actually charging. Many times it is merely going in the direction its nose is pointed and sometimes that also happens to be where the hunter is standing. Flight doesn't equate to charge in every instance. And many charges are artificially caused. For instance:
I couldn't open the first and third links due to they are blocked at my work for some reason. But the second link clearly shows a game fence to the left which means the hog was restricted in where it could go. Also the hunter blows the first shot. The fourth clip is a driven hunt in Europe which means the hunter is positioned in the middle of known escape routes and the hogs are pushed by dogs which you can clearly hear at the end. Like the previous hunter, the first shot was blown. These are artificially cause charges since in neither case could the game move freely.
I couldn't open the first and third links due to they are blocked at my work for some reason. But the second link clearly shows a game fence to the left which means the hog was restricted in where it could go. Also the hunter blows the first shot. The fourth clip is a driven hunt in Europe which means the hunter is positioned in the middle of known escape routes and the hogs are pushed by dogs which you can clearly hear at the end. Like the previous hunter, the first shot was blown. These are artificially cause charges since in neither case could the game move freely.
And you may want to look at that fourth clip again Flags. He didn't "blow" the first shot, the shot was from his rifle hitting the damn ground AFTER the hog hit him! Then it came BACK to bite him!
And when you can open that first clip, you will see a hog coming after a hunter standing point and not even LOOKING in the direction the hog is coming from! Pure, plain, easy to see and understand, ATTACK! Not a shot fired or ANYTHING to provoke. Just a hog protecting it's territory which MANY larger aggressive Boars will do. Especially if there are any sow's in estrus in close proximity.
The majority of hog hunters, the ones of us who do it more than a couple of times a year and on property that the owners have asked us to come in and eliminate hogs, will tell you that you are 100% wrong in your assessment of hog charges Flags. Most every one of us has been charged, REALLY charged, more times than we care to think about. You ask any of them who do it professionally, and have done it for more than a couple of years, and I would be willing to bet every single one of them would tell you the same thing I am. Hogs can and often do charge, hogs can and often do flat out attack, and hogs can be and often are just flat out mean SOB's. That can and often do have the same temperament of a Cape Buff. You say you have hunted Africa 5 times. Have you ever hunted Cape? I hear tell they are the Devil incarnate! They will absorb a round, run off and hide and wait till they can see the hunter and try with everything they have to kill a hunter. You saying that the hundreds of stories out there about the bloody Cape Buff are incorrect?
Now I myself have never had the inclination to hunt Africa. Can't bring the meat home and a preserved head does me absolutely no good whatsoever. But I have successfully hunted pretty much every huntable species on the North American Continent with the exception of Dall Sheep. I do know a little bit about what I am talking about.
#7
Yeah, usually hogs just want to run away. But sometimes they attack without provocation. A friend was bowled over by a big sow from behind; his muzzleloader went flying and he grapped the .45 on his leg. The sow came back and was killed. Two other sows were watching the action.
This Slidell, LA man was torn up by a rather small hog.
http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...idell_man.html
http://www.louisianasportsman.com/details.php?id=6862
This Slidell, LA man was torn up by a rather small hog.
http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.s...idell_man.html
http://www.louisianasportsman.com/details.php?id=6862
#8
Hogs definitely charge, with controlled aggression! If a hog is charging towards you, it's game on! Make no mistake about that. They're like a Bulldozer they can't jump, so grab a limb and pull yourself up, they will bull right on threw.
#9
I have to say I'm not very experienced with wild boars. I was doing some work on a "ranch" here in Michigan and ended up surrounded by some bigger ones. They moved on without any trouble, and then I breathed. Other than that, I shot one that was an escapee from that or a similar "ranch" in the area.
But I agree with flags observations. Particularly the fourth clip. The hunter seemed anchored to his spot which set him up for trouble. Then when he was knocked over he seemed to loose his temper, and he shot over one of the dogs. This not the thing to do on bears, so I guess it's wrong for hogs as well. I thought he should have first of all moved out of the way, then secondly let the dogs do their work.
The one coming back for a second poke showed some spirit.
But I agree with flags observations. Particularly the fourth clip. The hunter seemed anchored to his spot which set him up for trouble. Then when he was knocked over he seemed to loose his temper, and he shot over one of the dogs. This not the thing to do on bears, so I guess it's wrong for hogs as well. I thought he should have first of all moved out of the way, then secondly let the dogs do their work.
The one coming back for a second poke showed some spirit.
#10
From what little I could tell, those were driver/chase hounds. They pretty much do their best to get a hog bayed up. Catch dogs are the ones that grab and fight a hog. He did seem to stand his ground but at the close approach of the hog he was trying to side step around. Waited a little to late it seems! He had a fairly clear and easy shot on the hog but with the dog right behind it I guess he didn't want to risk the shot. But again, that hog had several clear pathways to take other than directly at the hunter. Hog spotted hunter, hog bowled hunter over, hog came back for seconds!


