Best Factory Trigger , Simple,precise and rugged ?
 

Who in your opinion makes the best factory trigger ? NOW I don't mean as it comes from the factory. I mean if we were going there it would have to be a Tikki or Accutrigger. I mean after all adjustments have been made etc etc. WHat rifle has the simplest mechanism and most rugged?

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Simplest and most rugged is the Winchester trigger and its copies. Only two major parts and one screw to adjust everything. Very simple to get a smooth and crisp break with no creep or over travel.

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Yep what bigbulls said. Yore gonna have to come up with harder questions teach. :eek:

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Thats what I thought as well just wanted to confirm it. I don't think there is a better combination of features out there. Anyone else have a different opinion?

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BTW Slamfire..everytime I see your name it brings back memories of a SLAMFIRE with my 280 KS rifle when firing a volley of finishing shots at a bull. It did it once and I gave the gunsmith that adjusted it hell for leaving it like that. Funny I usually test a rifle for that condition but I didn't on that one . YOu never know when Murphy makes an appearance.

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OEH,
How about the trigger in a Heckler and Koch PSG-1?;)

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Remington triggers are the easiest for me to adjust the way I want them but then I have done dozens of them over the years.

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Swampman, for all I know an H&K psg-1 may or may not exist. I am pretty much into rifles and shotguns ..pistols and other arms just don't hold my interest.

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James B..agreed on the adjustment part and they are very crisp as well. However i personally like the wide open design of the Mod 70 and the Ruger 77. Sometimes simple is better

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The old Sako triggers are hard to beat. Parker Hale....the old ones had a Timney Trigger that was awesome. The newer CZ set triggers are nice....IMHO, any remington, winchester or ruger triggers are clearly, 2d drawer.

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OEH. that might be true. I have only had a couple Winchester bolt guns and didn't have to do trigger work as I bought them used and the triggers were pretty good.

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I'm not sure, but I think this is an existing rifle. What's with the attitude?

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I probably do not have the experience as most do, however, i've reworked triggers from my small collection and i would have to say browning seems much easier to re-adjust (if needed, they come very crisp and at about 4 pounds) then remington. Every remington that i've bought seemed pretty heavy and had a little to much play for my taste. When it comes down to ruggedness; either, i suppose would perform well. I've never had a problem with either. Both are depenable and have performed flawlessly for me.

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Lets look at the triggers mentioned here.

WINCHESTER... Two major parts, the trigger and the sear. Both of which are attached directly to the receiver. Only one screw to adjust for both over travel and weight. A gentle filing on the trigger will take care of the creep.

REMINGTON (new)... Four major parts. The housing, sear, and trigger, and the actual trigger connector that rests on the trigger. Then you have two springs and three screws to adjust the creep, weight, and over travel. Then you also have the safety attached to the housing which is another spring and detent ball as well as the bolt release.

RUGER... Pretty simple and rugged design but virtually no adjustments available unless you buy an after market trigger or are good a drilling and tapping for some set screws.

BROWNING... Very limited on adjustments. In order to get to a safe 2.5 pound trigger pull the spring needs to be replaced. No way to adjust for creep or overtravel.

I don't have any experiance with the Tikka triggers to comment on them.

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Because you said Factory triggers, and not as they come from the factory, i would say that remington does have a decent trigger. They can easily be adjusted and they don't have much creep. They are great hunting triggers in my opinion, definately heavy for target shooting. But they are hunting rifles.

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Only ones I have had done are Remingtons. Have any of you guys got em where ya wanted without replacing springs in em? Thats the first thing my smith does is swap out springs when he adjusts them. They are sweet and crisp when he gets done though for sure.

At a local gun shop the other day i tried many different brands..and to be honest...most ranged from pathetic to just plain ridiculous. Its a shame what the lawyers have done to our guns. Only one that was good was a M70 Coyote...it was sweet. However another one right beside it...at least 8 or 9 pounds...terrible..lol.

RE: Best Factory Trigger , Simple,precise and rugged ?
 

[quote]Lets look at the triggers mentioned here.

WINCHESTER... Two major parts, the trigger and the sear. Both of which are attached directly to the receiver. Only one screw to adjust for both over travel and weight. A gentle filing on the trigger will take care of the creep.

REMINGTON (new)... Four major parts. The housing, sear, and trigger, and the actual trigger connector that rests on the trigger. Then you have two springs and three screws to adjust the creep, weight, and over travel. Then you also have the safety attached to the housing which is another spring and detent ball as well as the bolt release.

RUGER... Pretty simple and rugged design but virtually no adjustments available unless you buy an after market trigger or are good a drilling and tapping for some set screws.

BROWNING... Very limited on adjustments. In order to get to a safe 2.5 pound trigger pull the spring needs to be replaced. No way to adjust for creep or overtravel.

Boy did you ever nail that subject down..Great

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You don't need to replace any springs on a Remington trigger to get as light as 2 pounds. Which for a hunting rifle is plenty light and probably too light.

What should be done is a complete degreasing of every part in the trigger. Grease is a factories way of attempting to make a bad trigger smooth. Then get a mirror polish on the trigger connector and the sear at their engagement points with crisp and sharp angles.

For most this should still be left to a compitent gunsmith. It is very easy to mess up a trigger and shoot yourself or someone else.

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The Model 70 by far is the most rugged, durable and easy to adjust.

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I dedided on that handle when my Remington 788 went off as I closed the bolt. I figured if I could do it with a bolt action, I'd better stay away from self loaders. [:-]

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Da*n i never slamfired a 788 when I owned them just Model 70's and 700's