encore barrel
 

The barrel on my encore tends to move a little back and forth left to right. Does anybody else have this problem? is it normal? Do i need to send it in to get fixed?

RE: encore barrel
 

I don’t have that problem with mine but have heard of the pin creating a problem with accuracy because of the play as you mentioned. I would definitely give them a call or check with there web site. www.tcarms.com Good luck.....

RE: encore barrel
 

I sent mine back twice to be fix!! the last time I got it back I sold it ( buyer beware)

RE: encore barrel
 

If your Encore is new, I'd send it back to T/C. If not, go with an oversized hinge-pin and that should solve your problem. check out www.bellmtcs.com for one.

RE: encore barrel
 

How does it shoot? That movement is no big deal normally but let the accuracy tallk to you. You can see that slop and it may bother some, whereas you can't see the slop thats in most bolt rifles that causes them to not shoot the best either. Rely on what the paper tells you.

I've got an Encore in black powder with play in it that will shoot 3 shot groups at 300 yards off bags that averages around 4-5 inches max. For blackpowder thats decent enough. But I am a competitive shooter and anal so I'll be tweaking the gun. Not only the pin, but the pin won't fix the side to side movement. That will need to be shimmed. It'll be a good winter project one year. In the meantime the gun has taken one muley at over 200 yards. And is capable to over 300 easily. What more do I need at the moment?

Jeff

RE: encore barrel
 

This should solve the problem...;)

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If you have side to side play I see no way an oversize pin can solve the problem. If its press fit it can keep some things from moving but it will not snug it up like shimming could and thats the only way to prevent flex which can be a big player in accuracy.

If the pin solves the problem then it would be an easier solution to knurl the pin and drive it back in.

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I don’t think knurling the pin would be a good idea. It might eliminate the problem of movement but would be hard to take out. This would also take the advantage away of the Encores flexibility of changing barrels. The knurled pin would probably damage the holes and create more of a problem in the long run then solving the problem.

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I've got knurled pins on trigger and hammer pins on some of my match AR15s. The Marine team armorer from Quantico WTB showed us how to do it. You only do it on one side. It scared me at first but it was done in 1994 and I've swapped triggers 3 times since then and its all still good in an ALUMINUM lower.

I really think the oversize pin is the better choice of course. But I fail to see how it'll do any real good.

And in the end-- the main question is not answered. Shoot it first. Then if it won't shoot, wont' shoot handloads etc.... worry about it. I was more concerned with the locking lugs contacting the side of the reciever on one side and had to relieve that first before anything else. You sure don't want that stress on one side only. Which is another reason that a pin only can't really solve the true problem, IMHO

Jeff

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i would send it back!

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Here we go again. All the sage advice and no one ever said its accurate or not. So back to the main thought-- you find a flaw in your bolt gun. Something that may well only be superficial. So you send it in without shooting it? Why did you buy it in the first place with the flaw already there.

Then we have the folks that say theirs has no play. But how do you define play? .0001 play? Or .001 play? Or in between?

Before I sent anything anywhere I'd call TC and ask. All the armchair gunsmiths could be wrong. Sometimes what you see when an action is open isn't what happens when its closed. Borden Bumps are a prime example.

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I also had problems with my T/C and it could have been the barrel. Ended up ordering a custom barrel that shoots fairly well but no tack driver yet. I’m still breaking in the barrel. I could never understand what the pin would have to do with the accuracy of the rifle. The thing is that the scope is mounted on the barrel as one unit, so why would the pin create a problem once the action is closed. I know that my rifles pin is snug because I have to tap it into place but I have never measured the difference between the pin and the holes. All I would say is to shoot it first and then send it in for any problems as previously mentioned.

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Question. Does anyone else here have an oversized pin in their Encore or Contender? If so, did it help any? I know from personal experience, it DID in mine. Keep in mind, I swap barrels quite often and the original pin was getting to where it would just about fall out when the forearm was taken off. Now, if you only have one barrel, you may never need a bigger pin.
Trailer, with a breakdown style action, you have two lockup points and both are equally important. Yes, with a scope, both barrel and scope are one in the same, but the barrel is just one of two components. If you don't have a good lockup on both ends(lug and pin), you won't acheive the accuracy thats its capable of. Just my experience.