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Busch7596 03-10-2005 01:27 PM

Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
Looking for something that I can shoot a lot and cheaply. Ideally, I would like a .223, but most are little out of my price range. So I am looking at either a regular, old .22 or a .22 mag. is there any advantage of the mag? any disadvantage? Thanks

bigcountry 03-10-2005 02:50 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
Mag is great. so is a 22LR.

I would look into the `17WMR. Everybody I see if getting amazing results with them. And at 100yards. Something a 22LR has trouble doing.

DM 03-10-2005 02:52 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
Advantage of a 22Win. mag. is more power and range.

Disavantage is the ammo cost a lot more!! Also they make quite a bit more noise than a 22lr, but of course not as loud as the 22 centerfires such as the .223.

I really like a 22 Win. mag. and have used one a lot over the years. On smaller animials like squirells, they will blow a fairly big hole through them, so you have to pick your shots, on the other hand they kill much better on bigger varmits like coyotes too.

Really it's all about what you plan to use the rifle for, and are you willing to pay 5 times more for the ammo!

Drilling Man

aborquez18 03-10-2005 03:04 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

bigcountry
I would look into the `17WMR
Thats 17HMR, and ya its a little better than a 22Mag in my opinion. But you should go with the 22mag over the 22lr. You should look into the 17hmr, the ammo price is about the same as a 22mag, and maybe a 17 mach 2.

Busch7596 03-10-2005 03:19 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
Well I already have an old .22 with a bent sight and the action jams alot and I always feel like I have to upgrade calibers. I am mostly just going to be plinkin and short range targets. Probably not hunt with it except the occasional squirrel that looks at me funny.

JeffS 03-11-2005 08:25 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
If you are just using it for plinking a .22 LR is hard to beat. You can buy a brick of shells for aywhere from $8-$12 and shoot all day. We have several different .22 Lr's and we'll go through a couple bricks a weekend just playing around. We also have a .22 Mag but we don't shoot it as much because the additional cost of the shells. Though for hunting it has more punch.

Virginia7 03-11-2005 10:27 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

ORIGINAL: Busch7596
Well I already have an old .22 with a bent sight and the action jams alot and I always feel like I have to upgrade calibers. I am mostly just going to be plinkin and short range targets. Probably not hunt with it except the occasional squirrel that looks at me funny.
For the use you cited, go with a 22LR. Recommend take a look at a Ruger 10/22 as the
standard carbines are pretty inexpensive, and can be a very accurate & reliable gun.
There are also several models of Marlins bolt action rifles to consider, and Savage makes a few good ones too - also very inexpensive.

BTW, I have both, the 22LR and a 22mag. My 22LR is a Ruger 10/22, and it makes a great little plinker/target gun, and fun to go squirrel hunting with too. The 22mag is
a Ruger 77/22 target model. It's very accurate, and lots of fun to go after crows wth.

mossy33oak 03-12-2005 04:26 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

ORIGINAL: aborquez18

Thats 17HMR, and ya its a little better than a 22Mag in my opinion. But you should go with the 22mag over the 22lr. You should look into the 17hmr, the ammo price is about the same as a 22mag, and maybe a 17 mach 2.
aborquez, im sure bigcountry knows that its a 17hmr given his knowlege he shares in these forums......no need for corrections please! And as far as your quote of "its a little better than the 22 mag"?????? better for what? Shooting groundhogs at 150 yrds? Coyotes? I dont think the advantage (velocity) of shooting a 17 gr bullet over a 40gr bullet verses the disadvantage of wind drift and less energy warrants saying that it is an all around "better" cartridge. I own both and can tell you that if Im groundhog hunting Ill take my Ruger 77/22wmr over the 77/17hmr anyday for varmits.

Now back to Busch's question. I agree that a 22lr is the gun to have for fun, and a semi is the way to go for hours of fun at the range. Nothing like blowing through 15 rounds before reloading, a bolt can be a pain sometimes for plinking.

Rebel Hog 03-29-2005 06:59 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

ORIGINAL: mossy33oak


ORIGINAL: aborquez18

Thats 17HMR, and ya its a little better than a 22Mag in my opinion. But you should go with the 22mag over the 22lr. You should look into the 17hmr, the ammo price is about the same as a 22mag, and maybe a 17 mach 2.
aborquez, im sure bigcountry knows that its a 17hmr given his knowlege he shares in these forums......no need for corrections please! And as far as your quote of "its a little better than the 22 mag"?????? better for what? Shooting groundhogs at 150 yrds? Coyotes? I dont think the advantage (velocity) of shooting a 17 gr bullet over a 40gr bullet verses the disadvantage of wind drift and less energy warrants saying that it is an all around "better" cartridge. I own both and can tell you that if Im groundhog hunting Ill take my Ruger 77/22wmr over the 77/17hmr anyday for varmits.

Now back to Busch's question. I agree that a 22lr is the gun to have for fun, and a semi is the way to go for hours of fun at the range. Nothing like blowing through 15 rounds before reloading, a bolt can be a pain sometimes for plinking.

MOSSY,what are you saying? Man, the 22lr and 22mag is not for plinking! It's the round of DAH South!


aborquez18 03-29-2005 08:43 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

ORIGINAL: mossy33oak


ORIGINAL: aborquez18

Thats 17HMR, and ya its a little better than a 22Mag in my opinion. But you should go with the 22mag over the 22lr. You should look into the 17hmr, the ammo price is about the same as a 22mag, and maybe a 17 mach 2.
aborquez, im sure bigcountry knows that its a 17hmr given his knowlege he shares in these forums......no need for corrections please! And as far as your quote of "its a little better than the 22 mag"?????? better for what? Shooting groundhogs at 150 yrds? Coyotes? I dont think the advantage (velocity) of shooting a 17 gr bullet over a 40gr bullet verses the disadvantage of wind drift and less energy warrants saying that it is an all around "better" cartridge. I own both and can tell you that if Im groundhog hunting Ill take my Ruger 77/22wmr over the 77/17hmr anyday for varmits.

Now back to Busch's question. I agree that a 22lr is the gun to have for fun, and a semi is the way to go for hours of fun at the range. Nothing like blowing through 15 rounds before reloading, a bolt can be a pain sometimes for plinking.

aborquez, im sure bigcountry knows that its a 17hmr given his knowlege he shares in these forums......no need for corrections please! And as far as your quote of "its a little better than the 22 mag"?????? better for what? Shooting groundhogs at 150 yrds? Coyotes? I dont think the advantage (velocity) of shooting a 17 gr bullet over a 40gr bullet verses the disadvantage of wind drift and less energy warrants saying that it is an all around "better" cartridge. I own both and can tell you that if Im groundhog hunting Ill take my Ruger 77/22wmr over the 77/17hmr anyday for varmits.
Alright old timer, no need to get butt chaped. Notice I said my OPINION?
And thats your opinion. So please keep those comments to yourself, if you feel the need to give me a lecture because I dont want to hear it.

statjunk 03-29-2005 11:45 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
I've got a silly question but I have to ask. I heard you can shoot .22lr in a .22mag. True or false?

Also can you shoot a .22 short in a .22lr?

Thanks
Tom

DM 03-29-2005 12:42 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
A 22 Mag. case is a lot bigger around and longer than the lr case, so the lr case "will" go in the mag. chamber and "will" fire the lr case. BUT, it will split the lr case, and isn't a good thing to be doing!! Don't do this as it really isn't safe!!

Yes, you can shoot a 22 short in a lr chamber, but you will have to clean out the chamber if you fire very many shorts in it so the lr's will again chamber easily. The short will gum up the chamber ahead of the short case but it doesn't really hurt anything.

Drilling Man

mossy33oak 03-30-2005 01:30 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

ORIGINAL: aborquez18

Alright old timer, no need to get butt chaped. Notice I said my OPINION?
And thats your opinion. So please keep those comments to yourself, if you feel the need to give me a lecture because I dont want to hear it.
Hehehe. First off.....I am 30 years old, so that does not consitute as a "old timer" secondly if you choose to make idiotic statements please have data to back them up, such as.......I own both and and would choose one over the other because...etc. I have made an educated, informed opinion based on hours of varmit hunting with each of the calibers mentioned....how bout you?? As usual someone comes on here bashed one caliber over the other, and has no idea what their talking about. Maybe if you listened to what the "old timers" on here had to say, you may learn something. But judging by your post count, I would say you are here to be heard not learn, so do whatcha gotta do.

bigcountry 03-30-2005 09:24 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

Alright old timer, no need to get butt chaped. Notice I said my OPINION?
And thats your opinion. So please keep those comments to yourself, if you feel the need to give me a lecture because I dont want to hear it.
Goodness, some people have so much freaking time on thier hands. Don't you hate it when you get freaking English teachers on a forum like this.

Jeep4x4 03-30-2005 10:12 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
I need a .22 Mag since Ive found out that the .17 M2 wont kill a fox at 100yd [:'(]

James B 03-30-2005 02:04 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
The 22 Mag is more rifle that the 17 HMR. Heavier bullet more killing power as well. I some places the 22 Mag is legal for deer. Its not a deer rifle but I have seen it used as one. A varmit hunting friend of mine has trouble killing yotes with a 17 HMR.

mossy33oak 03-30-2005 02:11 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

ORIGINAL: aborquez18

Thats 17HMR, and ya its a little better than a 22Mag in my opinion.
I dunno James.........according to aborquez18 the .17 is better, (maybe he'd like to tell us why???:D

aborquez18 03-31-2005 10:05 AM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
Yeah, I do own both and Ive never had under 1" groups with my 22mag like a do with my 17hmr. And as far as varmint hunting I bet Ive hunted just as much as you, if not more. I have never had to pump more than one round into a fox or a bobcat with my 17 and have never had as much pelt damage as a 22mag leaves. So basically when it comes down to it the 17 has more velocity and better trajectory than the 22mag, not to mention the wind drift is less in a 17hmr than a 22mag. Ok so maybe the bullet is a little hevier, BIG DEAL! Anyways I wouldnt choose either of them over my 223 or 204. So there you go. Good enough for you Mossy?;)

mossy33oak 03-31-2005 11:20 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 

ORIGINAL: aborquez18

Yeah, I do own both and Ive never had under 1" groups with my 22mag like a do with my 17hmr. And as far as varmint hunting I bet Ive hunted just as much as you, if not more. I have never had to pump more than one round into a fox or a bobcat with my 17 and have never had as much pelt damage as a 22mag leaves. So basically when it comes down to it the 17 has more velocity and better trajectory than the 22mag, not to mention the wind drift is less in a 17hmr than a 22mag. Ok so maybe the bullet is a little hevier, BIG DEAL! Anyways I wouldnt choose either of them over my 223 or 204. So there you go. Good enough for you Mossy?[;)


Now you see aborquez, that was a decent post! you explained yourself, didnt go off telling people to keep opinions to themselves, etc. I may not agree with you, but at least I know what you have based your opinion on. Now for my opinion which you may not agree with ....but thats ok!!


Yeah, I do own both and Ive never had under 1" groups with my 22mag like a do with my 17hmr
This could be a number of things, gun manufacturer, bullet choice etc... (I have some brands of 22 mags that under no circumstances will shoot decent in my gun)


I have never had to pump more than one round into a fox or a bobcat with my 17
This statement has alot to do with shot placement and the ability of the shooter....the .17 leaves a smaller margin of error.


Anyways I wouldnt choose either of them over my 223 or 204
Yes I agree with you but, its comparing apples to oranges.....shooting varmits with a rimfire is much more challenging and rewarding. (IMHO of course :D)

JD IN ALBERTA 04-01-2005 04:22 PM

RE: Anyone have a .22 mag?
 
I have to agree with Mossy...I have a .22 mag and my buddy has the .17. The price of shells are identical here. As for groups, they are pretty similar but on windy days mine is a little better. His shoots at longer ranges with less drop, but less hitting power. Most gophers will attest:D I would recommend the .22 mag for critters and for plinking, but a .22 lr will definately be WAY cheaper. But my love for gopher shooting is about more than just the money. I just bought 2 bricks of Fed. .22 Mag TNT's for $210. Most people can't believe I would "waste" money on shooting varmints. But the stress relief is cheaper than an hour with a shrink;) No more fighting...were all friends here! JDinAB


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