270wsm or 270win?
 

I want to get a rifle thar can hunt deer, hogs, and mabey elk or moose. How much more recoil does the wsm have than the win?

RE: 270wsm or 270win?
 

You won't even notice the difference.

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i have a 270 win but have never shot a wsm. From what i have heard, the 270 win can take down about anything walking. the wsm is much more expensive for ammo i think. I would say go with the good ol' 270 winchester.

RE: 270wsm or 270win?
 

In theory the WSM cartridge has less recoil. However, the WSM's are typically packaged in a slightly smaller, lighter rifle, negating the reduction in recoil. I have a Browning A-Bolt 270WSM, and like it. No doubt I would've been happy with the standard round as well.

Check ammo prices and availability in your area. Its hard to find WSM ammo in my area. You'll pay more for WSM ammo, and find less choices, though Federal is now chambering new rounds for the 270WSM.

Bottom line - find a rifle you like, and if it happens to be one or the other, it'll make no material difference.

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If I had no 270 at all and wanted to buy one, I would buy the 270 WSM If I already had a 270 Winchester, I would just stay with it. There is not enough difference in performance for me to switch. I think the ammo selection and availabilty will improve shortly. However If I were not going to reload then I would not go with the 270 WSM. I would rather be shot and thrown in a ditch than buy a factory shell. WELL ALMOST:D

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I had to make that same decision just a little while back and ended up with the 270wsm. The 270wsm is about 100 to 200 feet per second faster then the 270win. depending on the type of bullet being reloaded, that’s if you reload. I also didn’t look at the availability of factory bullets so you might want to check that out before buying the rifle as previously mentioned. As for recoil I can’t comment on that because I haven’t shot the 270 win. in quite a while and I haven’t shot my 270wsm yet, but I’m sure looking forward to it. Good Luck.... and either one should do the job.;)

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I own a 270 win and shot a few 270wsm's, I noticed no difference in recoil between the 2. Like someone mentioned being I own a 270 win I wouldn't go off trading it for the wsm, but if buying new I would opt for the WSM. They will work wonderful for deer/hogs/black bear and will work on elk/moose if you do your part! Ie: pick the right bullet for the job and put forth the proper limitations. I certainly wouldn't consider either anymore than adequate for the larger game and I have actually used it for this purpose. My reasons are the 270 is somewhat limited in bullet choice, range and shot angles as opposed to other choices.

As far as factory ammo the wsm is getting better in the 270 offering I did a quick count from Federals offerings only you have 8 to choose in the WSM flavor and 13 in the standard flavour...a far cry from 3-5 choices total f yesterday. Further more indication to the popularity and longevity of this chambering.

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I'm a big supporter of the WSM's. Especially in the heavier bullets (150 grain) the WSM has a marked advantage, since you want to be able to go after larger game than deer it's a consideration.

RE: 270wsm or 270win?
 

Probably won't notice much, if any, difference in recoil levels between the two. Mostly, just depends on the rifle (weight, stock design, ...). Personally, I'd stick with the old
270Win. The WSM just doesn't provide enough difference to warrant the higher costs
of ammo. And, in consideration of elk or other larger game I'd just as soon get a
7mm Remington Mag., but the 270Win. will suffice.

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I have been struggling with this same question for a while now. I am not sure when I will be able to go out west to hunt elk, but I know that someday I will. I would primarily be using the rifle for whitetails in upstate NY. The place where I hunt has some fields, the longest of which is 326 yards according to my range finder. After doing much comparison between the 270 win and the 270WSM, I have to agree with what was said before, there really isn't that much difference in performance, and WSM shells are very expensive. I already have a 243 WSSM which is expensive enough to shoot. I do not reload yet, but would love to get into that someday. i think i may just wait to buy the rifle a while longer. A friend of mine has a 300WSM and loves it.I have shot it and was impressed.

I think the real problem for me is that I am just so interested in the different calibers availible that I want to own one of each. My wife is a very understanding woman, and never complains when I walk in with a new gun, but I could very easily get out of control with it. My want list just keeps growing!

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A few months ago I shot two featherwieghts. One a 270win, the other a 270WSM. I definately knew I was shooting different guns. Alot of varibles, however. The 270win was my handload of 130gr gameking and 45gr of 4064. A light combo really. The WSM was winchester powerpoints I believe.

I love the WSM lineup. I haven't loaded for the 270WSM but if its anything easy to load like the 300WSM, then it has a thumbs up for me.

If you a guy that wants to shoot deer with 130gr bullets, then no use to get a WSM. But if you want simular flattness but with 150gr bullets for bigger game, the WSM might strike your fancy. Nothing earthshattering however in the difference in bullistics.

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Lets let the numbers do the talking...these are all Winchester numbers not mine. 130 gr 270=3050fps; 130gr 270WSM=3275fps...140 gr 270=2920 fps; 140gr 270WSM=3125 fps....150gr 270=2850 fps; 150gr 270WSM=3150 fps. Let's see here, 270WSM shoots a 150gr bullet 100fps faster than a 270 shoots a 130gr bullet. At 300 yards that results in nearly 25% more energy. This new cartridge out performs a 30'06 in the 150 gr bullet range. I think I'm going to buy one!!!!! Jack O'Conner would roll over in his grave. I'm really suprised Winchester hasn't done this to the .243. The other bonus I see is the short action means less weight and faster cycling. It's taken 78 years, but it's obvious the 270 has been put on steroids. Regards to all, Rick.

RE: 270wsm or 270win?
 

is your wondering, i dont reload.

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and yes i always go to winchester.com and compare the two

RE: 270wsm or 270win?
 

They have - .243 WSSM!!!

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I just used the Winchester factory numbers for factory ammo not reloads. I'm confident these numbers represent a decent picture of what to expect out of these 2 calibers across the board. Here is the link: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...48/ai_85472059 Regards, Rick.

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The funny thing is I never needed a 270wsm. But I guess it's because I reload. When the short mag come out boasting a 130gr bullet at 3275 I was not impressed. I've been loading a 130gr bullet traveling 3288fps since 1985 out of just a regular ole 270win. Short mags are new and they shine for those that don't reload. But they are what they are babies in the field. In 80yrs I would be the 270win is still going strong when the others have worn out their luster. I'm no fan of short mags they are a fad with no great improvement. Just something new to sell year after year. This year is will be the 325WSM. I bet those that shoot a 338mag or a 8mm mag are laughing all the way.

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Your a lucky man. Best I can get is 3050 with H1000.

Absolutely, if you got a good 270win, no need for a WSM. But for those like me who loves short actions, and maybe a tad more umph, its a great caliber.

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Would you be so kind as to post the receipe for your 130gr 3288fps load? What rifle and barrel length are you using to achieve these numbers? Thanks and regards, Rick

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Just placed my order for 270WSM. Wanted, not necessarily needed a flatter shooting rifle than what I already have. (.308 BLR and 6.5 x 55 mauser). I hunt primarily Whiteltail during the rifle season, unless I haven't tagged out with my bow then I'll use the rifles for Elk as well. For that reason I went with the 270WSM as I have the option to push a heavier bullet a little faster. Since I handload, factory limitations, all though there aren't much anymore is not a factor.

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FYI, I have both a .270 Win in a Weatherby Ultra Lt. Wt. (Apx. 7 lbs. loaded/scoped/sling) and a Kimber 8400 in 270WSM (a light rifle also).

The recoil in either rifle feels about the same to me and both are a pleasure to carry all day. They are not unpleasant to shoot.

RE: 270wsm or 270win?
 

Good stuff, both of 'em. Wish they'd never invented wsm, then I wouldn't think I needed it. The advice I conclude from all these posts is to pick one and start shooting it. Then don't think about it again, just learn your rifle.

Easier said than done.