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fraze 01-24-2005 01:02 PM

Remington Shot Gun
 
Hello,

I'm new to the board, and wanted to know what people think about the Remington 870 Express Deer Gun. I just bought a brand new one for $326. The outdoor store was having a sale. I bought this gun primarily for Deer hunting. Its a 20" smooth bore with the deer sights. Anyone have this gun or know about it? If so, what shot do you use that you have found is good for white tail?

This is the one I bought, it was a great price.

http://www.remington.com/firearms/shotguns/870expdr.htm

Many thanks all!

ShootStuff88 01-24-2005 01:30 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Well, i would recommend a rifled barrel instead of the smooth, but either way. The smoothbore is good for rifled slugs, but not for the better, longer range sabot slugs.

I shoot an 870 in 20ga with the rifled barrel and copper-solid slugs, and have shot deer as far away as 120yds with dead on accuracy.

The difference with the rifled slugs is they will drop much more past 80yds and arent nearly as accurate, but pack a much healthier punch at short range than sabots.

Get it sighted in and blast yourself a big 'un.

Mat

fraze 01-24-2005 01:36 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Thanks for the info. Just to be clear on this topic, If I wanted to shoot sabot, I would have to buy a rifled barrel for it, otherwise I can safely shoot rifled slugs with the barrel it came with no problem then? Additionally, with a rifled slug and my smooth bore barrel, what kind of distance can I expect? I mean, how far away from a deer could I be to ensure an effective kill?

buttonbuckmaster 01-24-2005 01:42 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Fraze, I don't mean to make you feel bad but you could have bought the same gun at Walmart with a rifled barrel for less than $300.[&:]

fraze 01-24-2005 01:51 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
I live in Ontario, Canada, the biggest "gun" you can get here is a crossman pellet gun at the Wal-Marts here :)

I priced out the Rifled 870 Deer vs the Smoothbore 870 Deer at some stores here (LeBaron, BassPro and a few others) and the 870 I bought was the cheapest I could get at $326, the cheapest 870 with a fully rifled barrel was $445. I can buy a fully rifled slug barrel for my gun for about $145.

buttonbuckmaster 01-24-2005 01:57 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Sorry. I didn't know you were talking Canadian $$$. My bad.

fraze 01-24-2005 02:01 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
No worries eh! I wish the Wal-Mart's here DID sell guns, I would have bought there for sure. They do sell ammo, but the selection is not the greatest :(

newguy23 01-24-2005 02:47 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Fraze,

You can use rifled slugs in your smooth bore, as for distance I don't know what to expect, as I have always used rifled barrels, My personal limit is around 125 yards... You should be able to find saboted rounds for your gun as well.

If you ever go get another gun I suggest an H&R breakopen 20 gauge with a rifled barrel, mine has been superbly accurate for a slug gun and it is very inexpensive, I have the heavy barrel so the gun weighs like 10 pounds though.

gorse 01-24-2005 03:23 PM

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Steve F.in MD 01-24-2005 03:36 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
ditto what gorse said exactly!

fraze 01-24-2005 06:32 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Gorse,

Thank you so much!! I'll have to do some range shooting to gauge distance and accuracy, but the info you gave me was great, I figured I had between 50-75yds. Just one more question...(since you have the same gun)...When hunting white tail, would you say the 2 3/4" slug is more effective than buck shot? AND with this gun can I shoot say 6-7 1/2" shells for skeet and target practice..thanks again!

Fraze

biscuit jake 01-24-2005 09:56 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Frase, your smooth bore is not very likely to give you a good pattern for skeet as it has no choke. With small shot and bird shot, you have a shot column that can benefit by the shaping of some choke.

Buckshot, in those areas that allow it to be legal, is very effective on medium size game. I have heard deer hunters say that you need to pattern your shotgun & try to get 3 pellets minimum or so in your target of the 9, 12, or 15 that it has loaded in it. Otherwise, my experience with buckshot is in soldiering and I will skip that in this forum.

Good hunting.

ShootStuff88 01-24-2005 10:04 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 

ORIGINAL: biscuit jake

Frase, your smooth bore is not very likely to give you a good pattern for skeet as it has no choke. With small shot and bird shot, you have a shot column that can benefit by the shaping of some choke.

Buckshot, in those areas that allow it to be legal, is very effective on medium size game. I have heard deer hunters say that you need to pattern your shotgun & try to get 3 pellets minimum or so in your target of the 9, 12, or 15 that it has loaded in it. Otherwise, my experience with buckshot is in soldiering and I will skip that in this forum.

Good hunting.
Actually, remington slug barrels come with an improved cylinder RemChoke, and can be substituted for any size RemChoke tube, so in theory it can be used for any kinda shotgunning if the sights dont get in your way, but the short barrel isnt very well suited to shooting fast moving targets.

Buckshot isnt legal in Il where i am and dont know where it is legal, but i'd go with slugs before i'd shoot shot. More knockdown power, and more consistent accuracy at longer ranges, plus no need for a different choke tube.

Mat

gorse 01-25-2005 06:03 AM

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NJ Deer 01-25-2005 01:01 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Gorse said it pretty well...if you use buckshot you want a good percentage of pellets in a 10-12" circle...my gun patterns 8-9 which is a little rmore than 50% of the load 3" 00(15 pellets) its great for close range...if you are talking longer distances..lets say 50-100 yards than slugs is what you should definately use...my father shoots a slug gun most of the time and it shoots great he only uses 2.75 in.lightfield hybred exp...and theywork great...

JOE-BEEF 02-01-2005 06:27 AM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Fraze, Go with Gorse, I shoot a 870 also and he seems to have said it right...SEE YA IN THE WOODS.. Kenny

JOE-BEEF 02-04-2005 05:15 PM

RE: Remington Shot Gun
 
Hey fraze , Welcome Aboard, I don't know if your aware of it but you can buy a 24 inch fully rifled barrel with cantaliver mount for your 870 for only $160.00 . Ithaca and Mossberg both make them for the Rem. 870 . And may i add a heck of a lot cheaper . I have the Ithica barrel on my 870 and its very accurate...It suits me . Good Luck


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