kimber vs. remington
 

still looking for a good lightweight rifle.Model 700™ Titanium or the kimber montana.Only 44 dollars differnce.If anyone has first hand experiance with these gun give me your opinion please.I am leaning toward the kimber because of the 270 wsm.

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Goodness, your kidding right?[8D] Get the montana, not only light but will shoot very good too.

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There is realy no comparison of these two. I just looked at the 8400 Montana last weekend. I've had Ruger, Remingtom, Winchester & Interarms, but the Kimber is better. THe fit and finish was excellent & much better than a Titanium. I predict that Remingtom drops the Titanium line within a couple of years. If you are absolutely sold on the Titanium, I hear that you can get one on Gunbroker.com for $749.

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I am in no way sold on the remington.It was the only other gun in the gun store that was comparable to the montana in regards to a full size light weight gun.they wanted 1044 for the montana and 999 for the remington.If anyone knows of another 5 1/2 to 6 lb. gun in this price range please let me know.also thinking about going with the conquest 3.5x10x44.

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I'm not the expert, but my co-worker who is says I need to look at a Kimber. He does gunsmithing and is very impressed with a Kimber he recently upgraded. Now he's saving for his own.

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You can buy the Montana for less then the Remington. It's not really a fair comparism as far as quality. If the Montana was twice the price its still a better deal.

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I went to their site. Am I reading right; Is there no Kimber .270 win?

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They just chamber short mags and short calibers 243 260 308 and 7-08

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Have you looked at the Weatherby Mark-V Ultra-Lite? Weatherby chambers the ultra-lite in weatherby & standard calibers. I think they start with the 243 and go all the way up to the 300-Weatherby?

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I've been looking at the Kimbers too. I am thinking about a 270 wsm and was leaning toward a browning A-Bolt II Stainless Stalker, but i have heard nothing but good stuff about the Kimbers. I'm not sure that i like the blind magazine though! I already have three A-Bolt's an i really like them alot. I was just thinking of maybe getting something different. I have also looked at the sako. I am leaning toward stainless though for sure!

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Say I was absolutely sold on Kimber and still like and know .270, which one of these is closest to .270?

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For me, the real comparison & choice would be between the Kimber Montana & the Sako Finnlite. Now that's a tough choice and I'm not sure which one I would choose. I consider those two to be about the same quality.

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It comes in a 270wsm,7wsm,and a 300wsm.also.the 84 is the standard and the 8400 is the mags.There is about 1 lb. difference.

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I agree with Swiss, I prefer the Sako-Finnlight or the Kimber-Montana. BUT I spent several hours behind a 300SAUM Titanium 700 lastyear at a Remington dealer meet. The gun felt equally awesome. I'm can't remember for sure which ones will be intro'ed but some of the 700 line is getting the 270WSM and 300WSM for 05. If not the Titanium this year I bet it will be on line for nextyear. It's a neat gun and NOT anything like the plain jane old 700ADL Synthetic (which aint a bad rifle in the first place if you ask me).

The Kimber just FEEEEELS so damned good tho!!! :)
RA

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What would be a good price on the montana?There is only 1 dealer around me that carries them,and he is asking 1044 for the 8400?Well I guess there is only 1 dealer around.

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Never had a Kimber rifle but I have never had a bad Remington. Therefore I will stay with them until they do me wrong.

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I'd say go with the Kimber. those are nice guns

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I've got a Kimber 8400 Classic on my wish list for this year. With a daughter in college, though, I'm probably going to have to sell one of my other guns to make it happen.

I was curious about those "match grade" barrels and emailed Kimber. They sent me a nice reply stating that their barrels were button rifled. I was glad to hear that since the only hammer forged barrels I've had that are worth a darn are the Sakos.

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Totally agree. I wonder who makes them for them? Savage still button rifles theirs too.

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Totally agree. I wonder who makes them for them? Savage still button rifles theirs too.

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I would say, scratch the kimber and remington...go with a Winchester Mod 70 featherweight. You can also get this in .270 WSM and it has the pachmyr recoil pad. Pretty looking gun, good shooter. Cant go wrong with a winchester rifle. it is available for under 700 dollars at most dealers.

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Kimber is superior in quality to any Remington, Winchester, or any other production rifle manufactured here in the US or over seas. I have two and both are not just shooters, but I would bet the deed to my property they would out shoot any production rifle out of the box. Kimber is a complete package, they focus on accuracy and make a finely finished rifle. I thought I had Remingtons, Winchesters, Brownings, and even a CZ that were "real shooters" until i bought the first Kimber, night and day for those who are good enough to tell the difference.

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USMC PMI, do you have any experience with the 84M Montana? Specifically, I'd like to know how the recoil is on the .308? I'd assume it isn't significant, but I do realize the rifle is very light. Also, I've only heard about marginal (considering the price) accuracy in a few articles (i.e., 1.5 inch groups on average with factory loads). Any help you could provide could push me over the edge on this purchase. Much appreciated.

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I have looked at the Montana but don not own one. Both of mine are the Classic, in .308 and .270 WSM, neither kick enough to bother me. Not sure who tested the rifle in the articles but both of mine from a bench vise, using a trigger actuiator will fire under 3/8" FIVE shot groups. Now if you , me and five other people sit behind those same rifles, we will get three different results, I wish some of these so called "gun writer and testers" would learn that. From a solid base and having no chance of trigger pull effecting the shot, and lack of wind and similar weather conditions we are on an equil playing field. For example I have tested several Winchester Coyote's, a few Remington Taticals that will fire the same 3/8" group at 100 yards but only with three shots, five shots spread out like butter to about 1/2 to 3/4" with almost any factory rifle, I can speak for two Kimbers that do not. Either way good luck.

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Can you 'splain to me what a blind magazine is?

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Holy cow, you have shot the kimber and the winchester and would pick the winchester? I just got to shoot my first kimber and was impressed with its groups and wood.

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The blind magazine is basically built into the stock, there isn't a floor plate that you can release to unload the rifle. Not to compare quality but in function only, the Remington ADL's for example have a blind magazine. I am not a fan simply because this makes unloading a bit of a pain in the neck.

I have nothing against Winchester and own a few but they simply can not hold a candle to Kimber's quality or accuracy. As factory production rifle prices climb the Kimber becomes an even better value, they have kept their price increases slight to say the least. The only complaint I have is the wide scope of prices that I have seen from dealer to dealer.

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http://www.browning.com/products/cat...35&type_id=038




this is a little more expensive but it's worth it.

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oooh, I want one. Didn't realize browning came out with a Ti model.

Man, if I had to choose between kimber and that Ti model, it would be a hard choice.

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Thanks USMC. Realized it was a stupid question after I posted it. I own an ADL and just never called it a blind magazine. I like simplicity, even though I spend time unloading it, I'm rarely in a hurry to unload. One less hole in the stock and one less hinge . . . A blind mag is actually a plus for me.