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which has more recoil
i own a charles daly 12 gauge semi-auto. i shot 1 1/4 ounce shot, 3 3/4 deq. that (i'm 15)
had a bit of recoil to me. 7.5lbs i was wondering if my 12 gauge would have more or less kick than a 150 grain bolt action 308 what weighs the same. (7.5lbs) thanks |
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RE: which has more recoil
redsox Your 1 1/4 charge for your 12 guage is rated at 32 foot lbs. of energy in recoil. This compares to a 300 Ultra Mag with a 180 grain bullet at 32.8 ft. lbs. A good but more than the 308 Win of 15 to 17. ft lbs.;)
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RE: which has more recoil
Sniper151 is correct
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RE: which has more recoil
i visited one of chuck hawkes pages and the recoil numbers like you said are the same. but because my 12 gauge was a semi-automatic i wasn't sure how much that would reduce the recoil.
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RE: which has more recoil
All things being equal I still feel that velocity (of both the round and the corresponding recoil impulse) is a major factor in how things feel. Ive shot both the rounds mentioned a bunch. A whole bunch. But the 308 mostly in 168s and 180s. FWIW I think the 12 ga has more kick but feels less sharp than the 308 wit a bit less recoil but a bit quicker or sharper.
This can explain the fact that the worst recoiling gun to my body is a 378 Wtby. Its way worse than any 458/460 wtby etc..... Its just so dang fast............ FWIW Don't be scared of the 308 or even 30-06 if you shoot the 12 ga. If you shoot that 12 ga, IMHO you won't even be bothered by a 7 rem mag. Jeff |
RE: which has more recoil
Shooting a shotgun and shooting a rifle are two different things.
A shotgun you can point and shoot, holding on to the gun tight and it doesn't matter as much if you flinch or jerk the trigger or whatnot. You are able to fully anticipate when the shotgun will fire. A rifle you are holding alot more steady and more losely, squeezing the trigger instead of pulling it, and when the gun goes off it should be a surprise. That being said, because of how relaxed you must be to make a good shot with a rifle is the reason the recoil on a rifle is felt so much more. So even if the energy of the actual recoil is less, you will feel it more than your 12ga. JMHO. |
RE: which has more recoil
I have a Winchester model 88 in 308 Win. I use 150 gr. bullets and I think it is very pleasant to shoot. I think the recoil might be a little more then my 35 Rem and about the same as a 20 ga. pump shotgun. If your shotgun is anything like a Remington 1100 or 11-87 being semi-auto it is going to take away a lot of the recoil. I'd say my friends 1100 kicks about 2/3 of what my Remington 870 does. It really makes a 12 ga. feel like a 20 ga. I have an 11-87 20 ga. and I can't believe how light the recoil is compared to my pump 20 ga.
I would say your 12 ga. is still going to kick a more especially when using the load your using in the 12 ga. |
RE: which has more recoil
Great point Speyrjb !! I agree.
ORIGINAL: speyrjb Shooting a shotgun and shooting a rifle are two different things. A shotgun you can point and shoot, holding on to the gun tight and it doesn't matter as much if you flinch or jerk the trigger or whatnot. You are able to fully anticipate when the shotgun will fire. A rifle you are holding alot more steady and more losely, squeezing the trigger instead of pulling it, and when the gun goes off it should be a surprise. That being said, because of how relaxed you must be to make a good shot with a rifle is the reason the recoil on a rifle is felt so much more. So even if the energy of the actual recoil is less, you will feel it more than your 12ga. JMHO. |
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I agree with Speyrjb....i have shot the remington 11-87 for deer for 5 years--3" 00 buck and never once have i felt the kick whiel shooting at a deer...at the range patterning the gun its different but i always felt the rifle was a much sharper kick...i recently swithced to a wicnhester supreme over/ under 12 ga. and the kick is felt more than the semi because the escaping gas has no where to go where in a semi its pushing the action...
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I hunt with an Encore and have a 308 rifle barrel and a 12ga turkey barrel for it. I shoot 150gr pills out of the 308 and Federal 3-inch 2oz turkey loads out of the turkey barrel. The weight of each setup should be very close and the 308 is a ***** cat compared to the 12ga. I don't pay any attention to the recoil of the 12ga in the field, but patterning it is a tad rough!!!
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RE: which has more recoil
didn't ya'll pay attention in science class?... Newton's Law: every action has an opposite and equal reaction... of course shooting a heavy load in a shotgun is going to feel more recoil than a light bullet out of a rifle, even with the rifle shooting faster... atleast till you get into the big bores and the magnums...
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RE: which has more recoil
Has anyone ever noticed that a rifle seems to have more of a hard kick when compared to the "push" of a shotgun? Might just be my imagination. I shot 3 1/2" 12ga mags, 458 win mags, 338 win mags. Just what it feels like to me.
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