Leupold VXII Scopes
 

Guys, since Leupold brought out thier VXII scopes, I have been kinda confused on why a Vari-X III is so much better than VXII. The VXII has the same multicoat 4 coating and the same click adjustments. Bass Pro was having this big hoo ra ra, with all these vendors having reps on site. So I cornered the Leupold rep and he said the VXII has better characteristics than the old VariX II. But the VariX III has the multicoating on inside lenses also which gives something like 94% transparancy compared to the VXII with the coating on only two of the lenses for a 88%. Wow, you pay alot for that extra light gathering capability. Just if anyone else was wondering. Also got to talk a bit with Steve Puppe from Knight rifles. Saw a bunch of hunting videos with him in them before. Pretty down to earth guy with a cool job I must say. Said he still has to pay for the taxidermy work even though the sponsors pay for all these cool hunts. I don't feel sorry for him.

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I thought everyone bought scopes because of the brand name, no?

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i have a VXII and i love it. better tham my variX-II. clear and crisp.i have been told that the 4 multicoat on ths lens is only on one side. the variX-III has it on both sides.

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There is some difference between the 2. A comparable scope in a Vari-xIII is still lighter and shorter than a VXII. Multi-coat on the VXII is identical to what is on the VXII. Proper coating costs additional money. The old VarixII was overpriced.

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the VX-II cost me more than my old vari-X II.

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The VXII should cost more than the VariX II. I believe its twice the scope. As optics is what I do( but in the telcom industry), this coating they refer to is dog cheap to do, but the machinery to do it cost several million. What they are doing is matching the index of refaction with air so the reflective loss is lowest. Or trying too. I just can't believe they charge that much extra to do both sides and the concave lenses inside. I mean with the volumn they put out, they have already paid for the machinery. So the rest is gravy.

I laugh when I saw people out there buying up all those VariX II's 10s at a time thinking they would make money on them. I see the same guys at the range trying to sell them telling me they are better than the VXII's when they don't know a thing about Multicoat-4. Needless to say, one loudmouth I know, can't get rid of the ones he bought.

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The VX-2has a 3 piece tube and 82% light transmission the Vari x-III has a one piece tube and 93%light transmission. Thats why the price is different. I contacted Leupold and what i am telling you he told me except for the Nikon. Leupold are good scope but if you are going to spend 269.99 move up to a Nikon Monarch 3-9x40 for 299.99

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I pressed enter when i wasn't done. The Monarch has 95% light transmission and is a better scope than a VX-2. The Vari-x II had the same light transmission and a one piece tube for 199.99. New Name Big PRICE!!

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I am getting a new scope in a couple of days. I was going to get the VXII 2-7 x 32. How does this compare to the Nikon Monarch 2-7x32??

I had a Monarch 3-9-x 40 a few years ago and loved it. I have heard that the VXII is just as good but alittle less $$.

Since the VXII is a 3 piece tube how does it hold up to the snow and water as far as fogging up and keeping moisture out??

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Up North, look at it this way. Leupold has 82% light transmission. Nikon has 95%. The two scopes have the same magnification and will both do the job but the Nikon in my opinion is a better scope for less money. Thge Nikon will be brighter the Leupold will not. If you liked your other Monarch this one you will love also. Leupold makes wonderful scopes but you will be better off with a Nikon.

Why work when you can hunt???? Heck why work at all!!

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Where is everyone getting these figures 82% light transmission for Leupold and 95% for Nikon. Just wondering

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Leupold CustomerRepresentative at Bass pro Shop is the one who gave me the numbers.

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Ok, not sure how reliable that source(Bass Pro shops) would be. In reality the number for Leupold sounds kind of low...seems that somewhere I heard in the low 90's for the Vari-XIII.

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No, oldelkhunter, not Bass Pro, but a guy that works for the customer service for Leupold. They were having this open house where they had representatives from all the vendors to answer qustion.

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old elk hunter the Leupold Vari X III has 93% and the VX-2 has 82% same as Vari X II. I got these from Leupold when i emailed them. The Monarch has 95% and the Buckmasters has 82%.

Why work when you can hunt???? Heck why work at all!!

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So here is the question that needs to be answered before shucking out 35% more money for a Vari-X III. Will this two or three peice tube of the VXII handle the abuse like the one piece that the Vari-X III offers. Unfortunely, only time will tell. I am sure that that two or three piece assembly is easier to manufacture than a Vari-X III. Maybe thats the price difference.

Do you guys know the construction of the VariX-II. Sorry to be beating a dead horse here. I am still trying to figure out the price differences.

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Ok maybe I am a little off base but isn't the VariXIII also a 3 piece tube.

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Shooter...you mean someone from leupold told you that the VXII has the same light gathering power as a Vari-X II. Now that makes no sense why bother multi-coating it then. I tell you what I am going to call Leupold and talk to a non-brain dead person and find out about this.

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TheVari-xIII has a one piece tube that is why it is so much more than the 3 piece VX2 the Vari X II has a one piece tube so i don't know what Leupold is trying to do .

Why work when you can hunt???? Heck why work at all!!

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How's the durability of the Nikon scopes, how do they compare to Leupolds warranty and reputation? When I bought my vari-x II a couple of years ago I compared it to the buckmaster and I must say that the BM had sightly better optics (clearer) but I was concerned about the durability(not hearing any pro's or con's)so I spent the extra money and bought the tried and true vari-x II. I'll consider the Nikon's the next time that I buy a scope but I hope that their reputation isn't tanted.

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Fellas,yours truly has learned a thing or 2 today. I asked a product specialist at Leupold 2 questions...One about light gathering info and the other about 1 piece scope tube on the VAriXIII. Below isthe reply.


&quot;What is the difference between the VX-II and Vari-X III&quot;

The VX-II has the same tactile, audible, click-style adjustments as the Vari-X III, but there are a couple of differences. The Vari-X III is a one piece maintube, the VX-II is 3 piece construction. The Vari-X III has Multicoat 4 on all lenses, while the VX-II has Multicoat 4 on the external lenses and magnesium fluoride on the internal lenses. The difference in lens coatings results in the Vari-X III having approximately 92% total light transmission, the VX-II having approximately 86%. Both scope lines can have custom shop services performed.

Based upon that and always believing that my VArixIII's were a 2pc tube I think the VXIII is a great bargain and I will buy them until the cows come home. It is lighter than its competitors, has by far more eye relief and has the best customer service in the industry.Take it from me very few people have bought a greater assortment of scopes than me and I have had to deal with the customer service depts . If I had to buy a VXII though and it was not a hard kicking caliber I would seriously look at a Nikon.




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IF you are going to buy a Leupold think again/ They told me 82% they also told oldelkhunter 86%. Would you want to buy a scope from a company who can't even tell you the light transmission of the same scope right the first time??? I don't know about you but i am staying away from Leupold if thats what i am going to hear two different answers for the same scope??? They are good scopes but i will be sticking with Nikon!

Why work when you can hunt???? Heck why work at all!!

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Matters of tolerance my friend. Its like this, if you go down the hallway at the company I work and ask the spec of a Laser's output power in a certain configurations to 10 engineers, including myself, you will get at least 5 different answers. Why, because the supplier has a spec. It can't be as hardcore as 87% solid. It has to be +/- something. Also, each one of us has our own way of testing. Our own level of perfection. So sooner or later, we adopt a number. Its not out of the question for specs to not match in big companies. As far as staying away from Leupold. Why would I? They have done the job for me for 20 years. Its pretty adopted in the shooting industry that they are a first rate scope compared to the European scopes. So what is the spec tolerance for that Nikon. I know from Experience that it can't be 95% solid. Have you measured it?

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OLDELKHUNTER oops i'm yelling.
did they tell you the difference between vari x II and the vxII's? are the old vari x 's three piece tubes like the new vx's?i never paid attention to mine. i like it and was going to buy a vxII for a 308 in a model seven. but i know where a good used matte vari x is.

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..Thanks i was going to buy,my first Leupold but my (head) is
still spinning,confussed yes (99%)now i know that for sure,specs
yes right before my eyes..:)..

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I put a nikon monarch on my 45-70 three years ago I load pretty stiff loads and shoot alot with no trouble. They are one of the best buys going. check out www.theopticzone.com good prices