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Tplay103 12-21-2004 06:00 PM

Gun firing when taken off safety
 
I'm not trying to start an argument on brands of rifles of anything of the such. I'm also not a gunsmith or anything of the sort. I just want some simple explanations on a recent incident and/or approximate repair costs for my sons rifle.

My son shoots a Remington 700 ADL (Youth Model) in .243. I noticed last season that it tends to be finicky feeding sometimes. This year it got worse. Then, it got to wear it would not go on safety with a round in the chamber. I would have to unload it, take the bolt out, put the bolt back in, and then reload it to get it to go on safety.

Well, this last weekend (December 19th), while going through this little routine, I moved the gun from safety to fire position and the gun immediately discharged without touching the trigger. Needless to say, that gun is retired until repaired, but any advice or opinions are welcome.

kelbro 12-21-2004 06:04 PM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 
Thanks God nobody was hurt.

You didn't say how old the rifle was but Remington has a safety upgrade on their site for this very problem with some of the older models. I would get in touch with the folks at Remington and they will most likely take care of it at no charge to you.

stubblejumper 12-21-2004 06:15 PM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 

Then, it got to wear it would not go on safety with a round in the chamber. I would have to unload it, take the bolt out, put the bolt back in, and then reload it to get it to go on safety.
I would not use any rifle on which the safety did not function properly.

Tplay103 12-21-2004 06:21 PM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 
Sorry, let me clarify. We never used it without it being on safety. That's what I was trying to say. I had to go through this long routine in order to get the safety to engage properly. And of course, I always keep the muzzle in a safe direction so in case things (like the other day) happen, nobody gets hurt.

Oh yes, I do not have my paperwork in front of me, but this gun is only 3-4 years old.

bigbulls 12-21-2004 06:32 PM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 
Adjust the trigger and lock tite all of the adjustment screws. Sounds to me that the screw has worked loose over time and caused the trigger to creep back over time to the point that it is just barely engaging the sear.

stubblejumper 12-21-2004 10:39 PM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 

Sorry, let me clarify. We never used it without it being on safety. That's what I was trying to say. I had to go through this long routine in order to get the safety to engage properly
Let me clarify.The fact that you had to go through that long routine indicated that something was obviously wrong with the safety.Because of that,I would not have used the rifle.The risks were just too high.

Night Hawk 223 12-22-2004 12:46 AM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 
stubblejumper this guy has a problem with a rifle and came here to ask if any one knows what is cousing the problem and how much it will cost to fix it. he also said that the rifle has been retired untill it has been fixed! i dont see where he asked you to preach to him about safety? maybe you can point that out to me. but tplay103 as for the q you asked. i agree with bigbulls i think the trigger needs to be adjusted and a little locktite to hold it there. if this is the case it should be an easy fix.

stubblejumper 12-22-2004 01:11 AM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 
My point is that one should never trust any firearm that has a problem with the safety or trigger .I was hoping to disuade anyone reading this thread from using a firearm with such a problem.One possibility is that the trigger assembly was oiled or sprayed with a lubricant and a buildup of crud is causing the problem.In this case brake cleaner will usually fix the problem.However seeing that the individual is not all that familiar with the trigger or safety,I would recommend that if the problem is more serious he should have someone that is qualified do the necessary repairs.

Briman 12-22-2004 02:02 AM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 
Take the gun to a smith and have them fix it. The triggers put into current 700s aren't nearly as nice as the old ones. I had to replace a trigger set in an old 700 with a new trigger set recently, and I'm not impressed with the quality of the new stuff.

USMC PMI 12-22-2004 04:32 AM

RE: Gun firing when taken off safety
 
I am willing to bet that Remington would be more than happy to replace or repair your trigger / safety assembly free of charge if you contact them. I know they would rather fix the problem then go to court. Personally if you do not have experience with trigger work and especially work with safety mechanisms I would not attempt the do it yourselfer on this one, especially since it is a youth rifle. The only comment I have about the safety issue for Tplay103: while I can't condone using a rifle with an safety issues I will say excellent job keeping the rifle pointed in a safe direction, you have just made a positive impression on your son that will last a lifetime.


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