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SM_Johnson 11-25-2004 09:43 AM

Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I'm looking at scopes for my T/C Omega .50

I have a VariX II on my .270 and love it, mainly because its the first scope I've had that has not had to be re-adjusted every couple years and this gun really takes a beating all year long.

I had heard it said the new VX line of scopes are of a lessor quality than the older VariX series. Any thoughts on this?

Was looking at the Nikon line of scopes. My biggest priority is to find a scope that will stay on target. I dont want to throw down any more than I have to for this scope.

Are the Nikon Pro Staff or Buckmaster series scopes likely to take the punishment of a magnium blackpowder load?

As far as clarity, Even the cheap Tasco's I've used had always proved to be adequate for the type of terrian I chase white tails.

Thanks,

Mike

James B 11-25-2004 10:53 AM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I had a Buckmaster and was not very happy with it. The eye relief was very critical on the one I had. Most folks have had good luck with them so maybe I just got a poor one. The Pro-Staff is a no bells and whistles scope that is dependable and tough. I don't think you could go wrong with that one. The price is not bad either. I have a Simmons Aetec that I have never had to touch after I got it Zeroed. Its on a 30-06.

skeeter 7MM 11-25-2004 10:53 AM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
SM the new VX II is actually optically the same as the old Vari x III by way of same fully coated lens. The design to my understanding is much the same a 3 piece tube with same eye relief and click adjustments. The way I understand it all VX models have received some improvements optically, however whether those improvements are noticable I guess depends on an individuals perspective. I certainly think the VX II is the best of their offerings right now, but would opt for the likes of a Bushnell Elite 3200 and save some cake. It is a great little scope and even with a bit shorter eye relief shouldn't cause you much concern on top of a smoke pole. Mine inline use to wear a 4200 and even with stout loads never came close to the brow.

I am sure Nikons may be good, but one realllly bad experience with a Monarch leaves me suspect of their offerings for my usage still.

Try to do some comparisons for yourself and pick the best one. I use the Leupold 2 piece rings and bases (Double dovetails now) on all my scoped rifles...I think this is an important part many over look when selecting a new scope. Do yourself a favor and buy good bases and rings as well!

SM_Johnson 11-25-2004 04:07 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the old VariX scopes a 1-peice tube?

furbman 11-25-2004 04:19 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I have a Leupold I and III and i think they are one piece tubes also, I also have the Nikon Prostaff 2x7 mounted on a .358 and all three seem to be holding the zero, work well and are nice and bright, The Prostaff and the Leupold I are pretty close in price, no clicks on the Leupold I though. The Vari X III is just sweet, everything turns and clicks smooth, it has a feeling the other two dont have, but to be honest..they all do their job fine, go to the store and play with them, see how they look to your eye, check out the warranty, remebering that a good scope is an investment, it can go from gun to gun, and make your choice, good luck and have fun doing it.....Craig

Sniper151 11-25-2004 04:23 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
SM My opinion, there are no Nikon's that compare to the Leupold clarity and quality. I have owned Leupold's and 1 PH Swarovski. I dumped the Swarovski, The top LPS Leupold will outperform the Austrian import with a warranty second to none. Many shooters purchase the high priced imports to impress the guys at the range. As far as performance, you can't do better then Leupold.
Good Hunting...;)

VAhuntr 11-25-2004 05:54 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I have a VX1 2-7 x 33 sitting on my .50 Omega. I am very impressed with this gun and scope combo. I enjoy the extra eye relief and I know the Leupold carries a great warranty in the unlikely event that I will ever need it. Check ebay, there are some good prices there, especially during the off season.

PABuck_HNTR 11-25-2004 06:35 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I have 2 Leupold Vari XII's and also 2 Nikon Buckmaster scopes. In a side by side comparison there isn't all that much difference in my opinion.The Nikon is a bit longer and a bit bulkier, but optics seem relatively equal.

driftrider 11-25-2004 07:39 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I'm very partial to Nikon scopes. VERY good optics and the mechanism is true and reliable. My 22-250 has a Monarch UCC 6.5-20x44AO on it that is clearer at 20x than my Bushnell Trophy at 3x. I've sized up many Leupolds, and while they are good scopes to be sure, I just don't think they are worth what they get for them. The Monarch UCC easily compares with the Vari-X III's and is much cheaper. However, I don't think that you could go wrong with either brand. I just think that Nikon definately has the edge on optic design and lens coating techniques (95%+ light transmission on the UCC scopes!), probably because of their extensive research and experience in the camera and scientific optics field.

My Sako 75 7mm STW will also wear a Monarch UCC 3.5-10x50...I can't wait to get that rifle, either! :D

IMO, you're going to get more for your money with the Nikon, but if you really like the Leupold or are dead set on "buying American," then I doubt you'll be unhappy with a mid- to top- end Leupold.

Mike

skeeter 7MM 11-25-2004 09:06 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
SM the Vari X III is a 1 piece tube however the new VX III is not (3 as well like all VX Models). The LPS is however still a 1 piece.

I believe the Vari X I & II's were 3 piece for quite some time, though not 100 % sure, never owned either.

PaJack 11-26-2004 03:09 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
Another vote for Leupold...:D

brother hal 11-26-2004 08:10 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I have a Leupold VX2 on one rifle and a Nikon Monarch on another. I can't tell a bit of difference between the two. Both do their job well, and both have a lifetime warranty.

idahoelkinstructor 11-26-2004 08:19 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
This year in june I bought for $600 a brand new Leupold VX-III 4.5x15x50mm with the 30mm tube and B&C reticle. And I own a Leupold varix-II, 4x12x40mm bought new in 1991. Also I have owned and sold a Leupold varix-III 4.5x14x50mm bought new in 1994, and a late 1970 model Leupold 6x40mm. There is a big difference in coatings and clarity between all of them. In choosing my scope this year I had a friend/manager at sportmans warehouse let me compare a Leupold VX-III 3.5x10x50mm $500. Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5x10x 50mm $400. Swarovski 4-12x50mm $850. Nikon Monarch Gold 2.5x10x50mm with a 30mm tube $550. We took them out of the store with a hour and a half of light left and were looking at the hillsides to the east of Idaho Falls until it was dark. To be honest my friend (Adam) and I couldn't tell a difference between the four scopes. All were excellent in light gathering and clairty. Before our test Adam was hopeing to sell me on the Nikon, but he told me the Swarovski would be the best at our test. Well we were both surprised at how well all of them did. I of course bought a leupold, diferent model than we tested. but I think if you choose a top of a line scope from a quality scope manufacture you can't go wrong. I also put a sun shade on my new scope. And no the FOV does not change with or without the sunshade. I'm not sure but I think my scope with the 30mm tube is a one piece? If I'm wrong please correct me, if it's not a one piece, "oh well". I am not worried because of the cusomer service, warranty, and the overall quality is top notch. Just my 2cents.

speyrjb 11-27-2004 01:53 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I'm partial to Nikon as well. The only question I have about Nikon is about the warranty.

Leopold has proven time and time again that they stand behind thier lifetime warranty 100%. I've read stories where people have had trouble with a 20+ yr old Leopold and was able to send it back and either have it fixed or replaced no questions asked.

I've always wondered if Nikon will offer the same top notch service as Leopold in this regard. Has anyone had any experience with this?

eldeguello 11-28-2004 02:36 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 

ORIGINAL: SM_Johnson
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the old VariX scopes a 1-peice tube?
No, the objective bells screwed onto the tube....

biscuit jake 11-28-2004 03:31 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
Speyrjb, last Sep I bought a Nikon Monarch 2x7 and I liked it except that the power ring was ridiculoulsy tight. I sent it back and have yet to hear from them.

biggunz.45-70 11-28-2004 05:11 PM

RE: Nikon vs. Leupold
 
I have five nikons and I haven't had a problem with any of them. That tight power ring is common among them all.


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