300+ yard Rifle which one?
 

Which rifle is capable of reaching out over 300+ yards? accurately with little bullet drop? And when I mean out past 300+ Im talking from 300-500 yards. Also what would be a good scope to put to that kind of test I was looking at the Nikon Monach in 3.3-10x44AO in the Titanium finish. Any help is appreciated

Thanks,

MCanton114

RE: 300+ yard Rifle which one?
 

If this gun is just going to be a beanfield rifle or something of that sort where a lot of walking isnt involved, I would opt for a Remington Sendero SF in 300 Win Mag. This gun has an HS Precision synthetic stock and a nice fluted barrel, and it weighs in at 8 1/2lbs I believe (havent looked at one in awile) You're definitely on the right track for the scope, I love my Nikon, very bright scope.

Best of luck,
timba

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Thanks Timbawolf98 I was actually heading in the 300 win mag range. I have had the opportunity to use the .300 win mag before and I really like the performance of it. What grain should I be shooting out of it for presision accuracey?

MCanton

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If it were me, I believe I would go with 180 or 200gr bullets. If you want some more info, go to www.longrangehunting.com and ask them, people there are professionals

RE: 300+ yard Rifle which one?
 

When I saw the "500 yard" shot first thing that came to mind was a 7mm STW,check out the balistics for that caliber...;)

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Definatly would have to second the 7STW. In my opinion the best 7mm (what's better than an 8mm rem mag necked down to 7mm?) that gets the least attention. If you wanted to step up to a 30 cal bullet, check out the 300 RUM. It will shoot circles around the Win Mag, but factory ammo is pretty limited on it.

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Hi there,

I would choose a .270 wby mag in a Accumark with a weatherby accubrake. I would use the 130 gr sciracco or accubond. I would use the Nikon 5.5 -16.5 titinum scope 44mm obj. I would choice this because I use it repeatedly all over south Texas and Nebraska and have taken mule deer at 400 yards That hit so hard I did not even see them drop in there tracks. I have shot many whitetail up close, but I had a chance at one of those 180 "once in a Lifetime Bucks" and I took it at 430 yards down a Sendero and held at the top of the deer back and then the shot was over, there he was. This might not have the energy of a bog 300, but the lack of recoil and flat speed it generates is worth the trade to make a clean shot!!Good luck!!!
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The 7mmstw is a fine choice but the gun is useless unless you have access to a 500 yard range and are prepared to shoot at least a couple of hundred rounds yearly practising at distances out to 500 yards.Buying a long range gun does not make you a long range shooter despite what many people seem to think.

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No I disagree with the 270 WBY . The reason I say this is becouse, I have wanted a 270 WBY for a number of years now. Until I seen a friend use one on a Oryx hunt last year.

He was shooting custom Nos. reloads. The Oryx was about 250 yards away, and he hit him three times in the lungs and NEVER even phased the Oryx. I ended up giving him MY 7mm Rem. Mag loaded with 175 gr. Horn. reloads. One shot at 300 yards put him on his butt.

Some here may say that he might have been dead before he drew a bead. Some may even say that he had so much lead in him that he could'nt move.

I say that the 270 WBY isnt even close to the 7 mm Rem. mag.

If you are looking for a 300 to 400 yard cal. then you dont have to look very far. A 30-06 or a regular 7 mm Rem. mag will fit the bill nicely.

Just my opinion.
hunter338

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Everyone always counts the old 30-06 out for long range. It's alot flatter than what most people realize and hits with a good solid smack. I know of people who have harvested deer out to 550yds with the good ol' 06. So dont count the 06 out either!

RE: 300+ yard Rifle which one?
 

I would go with a 300 Wby. Mag., or the 300 RUM (if you handload). Good luck.

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MC, What kind of game are you shooting at 300+ yards? Getting the bullet out that far accurately is one thing having enough bullet to drop the game is another. For a scope, I would suggest a variable from 6 x 20. Even a bear at that range is a mighty small target.
Good Hunting...

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Well, when it comes to "having enough bullet to drop the game" we need to look at the physics of what really kills the animal so we can quantify this. In this case I believe that deer is the game in question. The energy transferred to the animal is what kills it. To illustrate this lets look at two identically weighted bullets traveling at the same velocity there by having the same kinetic energy. One bullet is a solid Full Metal Jacket, the other is of a design that will mushroom. I think everyone will agree that the mushrooming bullet will be more likely to kill the animal. Why? If you look at ballistic gelatin results of the two bullets in question you’ll find that the mushrooming bullet transferred more energy into the gel quicker that the FMJ bullet. The mushroom bullet will leave a much larger cavity (sometimes as large as a grapefruit) than the FMJ. This more rapid energy transfer translates into more internal injury to vital organs.

Now, that being established we need to look at how much energy it takes to reliably take a deer. I’ve found no scientific data on this subject, but after looking at what people use to take deer and at what ranges it’s my opinion that 1000 to 1200 ft/lbs of energy is sufficient to kill a deer effectively and ethically provided that most of that energy is transferred to the chest cavity.

If you take the .30-06 into consideration shooting Remington CoreLokt 150gr ammo, the bullet drops to 1200 ft/lbs of energy at approximately 385 yards and drops to 1000 ft/lbs of energy at approximately 460 yards. (I used Rem-Shoot to get this data. Rem-Shoot can be down loaded for free from www.remington.com .)

So, using the .30-06 as an example and not taking into account bullet drop or wind drift considerations, I would use it for 300 to 400 yard shots but not 500 yard shots. Of course you have to take these other things into consideration but I just wanted to impart my logic and my opinion into this aspect of cartridge choice at given ranges.

I hope this helps!

RE: 300+ yard Rifle which one?
 

I would recommend a Weatherby Accumark with a 26 inch bbl. in any of the 7MM Mag. either Remington, Weatherby or STW.

This Rifle in this calibers can easily handle a 400+ yard shot (The thing here is the variable that comes after the recoil pad......that means you!)

If you are a proficient marksman you can obtain very satisfactory results with this calibers.

You can top the rifel with a Zeiss Conauqest in 6.5-20 x 50 in order to better obtain your target (as someone say before, at that distance even a bear is a small target).

Good Luck!

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Hell just go with a rifle and calibur that will leave no doubt= .50cal BMG

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I cant believe that I forgot about the STW, especially since I plan to have an Encore with a custom 7mmSTW barrel in the next few years. As they have said above, you need A LOT of practice at long range before you attempt it on an animal, as you owe it to the animal to make a swift, clean kill so that no suffering is involved. If you're doing any serious longrange shooting, 500+, then a 300 will better suit you than one of the 7mm's (providing you use 180 or 200gr bullets) because the bigger, heavier bullet wont be pushed around as much in the wind.

About the 30-06 as a long-range gun, if you're going to shoot this caliber for long range, and have the opportunity to shoot shortrange with it from your stand or however you hunt, you're probably going to need a scope that has a ballistic plex (like Burris) or the B&C reticle (Leupold) because of the trajectory of this caliber. This is why I would try to stick to the magnums in this case, because these scopes are quite expensive, and theres not really any need in it providing you can handle the recoil of one of the magnums.

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hey timba i gotta sendero sf in 300 win mag, its a light kicking gun but it weighs alot but i dont care about the weight to much, mostly hunt outta blinds, great gun

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I'd love a Sendero SF, very nice guns, but I have no real need for one (though that's never stopped me from purchasing things before) but as I stated, my next rifle will be an Encore, there are so many calibers that I want to try, this will be my cheapest option

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