7 MM QUESTION
 

What is the difference between the 7MM and 7MM STW. Any info would be helpful

THANKS

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Which 7mm? are you asking about?

Now the 7stw was a wildcat cartage that was started by some people at shooting times.
its a 8mm rem mag necked down to 7mm.

If the 7mm in ? is a 7mm rem mag the stw is faster i belive its evan faster than the 7mm weatherby but its slower than the 7mm rem ultra mag.

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Ummmmm, long story...

7mm is the diameter of the bore or .284."

Now there are several cartridges based on that "caliber" (7mm).

Each of these cartridges has its own characteristics for case design, length, etc, etc, etc.

The "cartridges" came about mainly because someone felt they could do better than another cartridge of the same caliber for some reason or another.

Now with that said, here is a partial list of some the the more popular 7mm cartridges.

I think the 7mm you are reffering to is the 7mm Remington Magnum, introduced by Remington can't remember when.

The 7mm STW (shooting times western) was a wildcat that was developed to increase the potential of the 7mm bullet.

Among other 7mm cartridges are the 7mm Mauser (7x57), the 7mm-08, 7-30 Waters, 7mm Weatherby, 7mm WSM, and the 7mm RUM (Remington Ultra Mag). I left out a lot of factory cartridges also available, as well as many wildcats that are out there. These are some of the more popular ones. Each was designed to do one thing that someone wanted it to do.

A good website that has info on the cartridges, both wildcat and factory is www.reloadbench.com

It has good info on the many cartridges that are out there. Just click on the info for wildcat and factory rifle cartridges and read more info. HAVE FUN!!!

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

7MM STW is a 8MM Rem mag case necked down to .284 bullet. The larger case inturn will create velocity, energy and Trajectory gains using the comparable .284 bullet. The actual gains will be approx 300fps faster/energy equating to less drop at the same ranges over the 7mm Rem Mag. For those who shoot 300plus yard they will notice a big gain in performance, for those shooting upto 300 yards while gains will still be seen it would not really lend itself as a huge benefit for these type situations. Basically flatter and more umf running the same .284 bullet and a great choice for long distance shooters who reloads!

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Skeeter pretty much nailed this one..If your interested in some reloads try www.reloadersnest.com

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Sorry about the lack of info, I want to buy a new rifle (not that I need another)--- the sako 75 caught my eye--I do not have a 7 mm of any type, trying to fill the void, my question should have been which one would be recommended 7 MM REM MAG, ULTRA MAG OR STW. I do not reload, most of my shots would be uder 300 yards---- not worried about kick, I plan to use it for deer, bear & moose

THANKS

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

On the criteria of factory ammo alone I'd opt for the 7mm rem mag. Ammo selection, availabilty and price are the best for this popular 7mm offering. It certainly will handle your game as well, I use mine as my all arounder(as do a lot of other hunters in our area) which includes loper, bear, deer, moose and elk. There is no doubt it will roll over black bear, about the only ones I'd want more would be the big bears (browns, griz.). Most factory ammo have grain choice of 140-175gr, more than enough to find the right combo for your hunting needs. Couple that with its popularity and you have choice of newer technology unlike some other cartridges.

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Makoman, I have the Sako SS 75 in 7 stw and it is one fine rifle..if you can buy it at the price they are asking do it, you'll never find them cheaper. If you don't reload pass on it .

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Right now there are 11 factory loads offered for the 7mm STW ranging from 140 gr., 145 gr., 150 gr., and 160 gr. Good luck.

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Handloader1 and most of them are way underloaded and rather expensive. I will not pay 25-30 dollars for a box of plain Remington 140 grain corelockts at either Walmart(most expensive) or local gun shop(cheapest)

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Go with the 7mm Rem Mag. You just don't need more for shots that will not exceed 300 yards and I think you'll find ammo more readily available for this cartridge than the STW or RUM. I've had five 7mm Rem Mags over the years and they've all served me well. My latest one is a Sako 75 and I couldn't be happier with it. This will probably be my last 7mm mag, but it will certainly not be my last Sako.

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Solitary Man ..couldn't agree more it was just tough passing up chance to buy a Sako 75 SS for the price I paid for it

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Thank you all for the info, since I do not reload I may have to go with the 7 MM REM MAG

thanks again

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

Handloader was good to point out how many factory STW ammos are currently available for comparison I looked in a couple catalogues I have and found a total of 51 factory offerings available for the 7mm Rem mag.
(Federal 16, Remington 10, Olin(winchester), PMC and Hornady offer 7 each, Norma and Speer Nitrex 2 each-grains 139-180.)

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

OK guys thanks for the help, I just bought the SAKO 75 7MM STW stainless hunter, after your posts and some phone calls to sport shops about the factory ammo for this rifle, there seems to be a good selection and I said to my self go for it.

THANKS AGAIN

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

oldelkhunter, I fully understand.

Makoman, you've made a good choice. Enjoy the 75.

RE: 7 MM QUESTION
 

I have two 7mmstw's and find it to be a great cartridge.The only problem is that the factories load them very mild.You really need to handload to see the full potential of this cartridge.