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See Thru Mounts
I bought a used Remington 700 ADL in a 270. It came with a set of see-thru scope mounts on it. Now I'm faced with whether to go with that or to try and free the screws from the lock-tite in the rail. Any thoughts will be appreciated.
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RE: See Thru Mounts
I would say that keeping the see-thrus would depend on the distances you hunt at and on how well the rifle/scope combo fits you.
I use see-thrus on my muzzleloader because I keep my hunting distances short and I often hunt in low light conditions and I see a little better bare-eyed under those conditions. Plus the higher scope fits me well ( I guess I have a big head ).Another consideration is how stout are those mounts? If they are cheap or weak looking, I'd upgrade to prevent problems down the road. |
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The only reason to use see-thru mounts is if you plan on taking shots at running game fairly close to you in the brush. The .270 shoots flat enough that you don't need to use iron sights for one range, and a scope for longer ranges. The scope will allow you to see better in low light than those iron sights will. Plus, for most people (except Mark ;)) they cause you to raise your head, lifting your cheek from the stock, in order to see thru the scope. Bad idea for best accuracy. You should have firm cheek to stock contact for best results.
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I've never been a fan of see-through mounts. I agree with Danny. Your scope should be mounted so that you are looking through it the instant your rifle is shouldered and your face is on the stock. Otherwise you're searching for your target. The closest deer I've shot with a 3x9 scope was 5 yds away. No big deal.
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I'll second everything Wingbone said. If your scope is mounted properly and you know how to use it, you'll never have a need for see through mounts.
You can use Acetone (fingernail polish remover) to lossen that locktite. |
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Ditch the see throughs and get a good Leupold or Weaver mount. A poor set of rings, all see throughs are poor in my opinion, will cause you more problems han they are worth.
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See through mounts place the scope too high above the stock for a solid cheek position on the stock.They are also not nearly as sturdy as most lower mounts.
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Get rid of the see through mounts, and obtain a pair of Leupold Dual Dove Tail Mounts and Rings. Good luck.
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ORIGINAL: Leafrivermac I bought a used Remington 700 ADL in a 270. It came with a set of see-thru scope mounts on it. Now I'm faced with whether to go with that or to try and free the screws from the lock-tite in the rail. Any thoughts will be appreciated. Get rid of them if you can get them off without harming the rifle or scope! There's a couple of serious drawbacks to MOST see-under mounts. One is that the stock comb can be of a correct height for only one sighting plane, either iron sights or a scope. Generally, a see-under mount makes you have to crane your neck and get your cheek up off the stock too high to see through the scope. If it turns out that your stock comb is the correct height for the scope so mounted, you'll have a devil of a time forcing your face down onto the stock hard/far enough to use the irons!! The other problem is that most such mounts are pretty flimsy, and are much more subject to being knocked out of zero than lower, solid-ring mounts like the Leupopld double-dovetail mentioned above!!! |
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I'm not a huge fan of see-through mounts, usually, if they lift the scope high enough to really allow you to use the open sights well, they lift it higher than is comfortable for using the scope...So basically you strain up to use the scope and strain down to use the iron sights, you're never shooting comfortably.
They also heighten the profile of your rifle, it makes it a little harder to manage through dense stuff, and they're more prone to shifting from a bump (or poor construction). I've used them in the past, and have one or two sets on rifles as I'm typing this, but they're not my favorite, I always prefer a big objective scope with variable magnification (3-9x or 4-16x are my favorites, but 2-7x, 1.5-7 etc are good too), low end magnification with a 52mm bell gives a good enough FOV for short range shots, even running shots. At least then you don't have to worry about sighting in BOTH sights and trying to remember the proper hold over picture for given ranges. Usually guys, regardless of their cartridge's trajectory, will sight in at 100-200yrds with their scope, and then at 30-50yrds with their iron sights. I guess they figure if they're sighting in anyway, might as well make sure it'll be right for your hunting ranges-since they use the scope for longer shots and the iron's for close up running shots. |
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i have see thru mounts on a couple guns (.22, .270, .44) and plan on putting them on my muzzleloader. I like them. I like the flexibility of both sights. if they are installed properly they should work as good as any mount. as with anything, if you use it enough you will get used to the position and shouldn't have any problems.
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I'm with most on this topic. Get rid of the See-Thru's.Like mentioned they raise the scope to high. The S-T's are made of Aluminum Extrusions.The slightest bump will knock your scope out.If they were made of steel they would probably be a good idea. I've never seen steel See-Thru's telling me nobody makes them.Buy a good set of rings and bases and trash the See-Thru's is my best advice.I have a gunsmith friend who has a wall full of them,ones taking off of customers guns.That proves something to me.
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Leafrivermac..........get rid of the see thru mounts!!!!!! Right in Leupold's site in the official leupold owners handbooks download section they state, "THE LOWER THE BETTER" page 3 in the actual book and page 6 in the web download section ( http://www.leupold.com/resources/dow...s_Handbook.pdf ). Good luck with the gun and if you can't get the mounts off, It's worth it to bring it to a gunsmith. Have fun shooting ............John
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I like my scopes as low as possible. I have no use for see-thru mounts myself.
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Unlike most, I really like my see through mounts. Irons are zeroed at 100 and scope at 300. For running shots, you can't beat iron sights, and for long shots a scope is the answer. I feel you get the best of both worlds with see thru's
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get rid of those things. your cheek will not sit on the stocl properlly like others have said. i like to have my scope as close to the barrel as possible.
if your shots are gonna be that close in brush just go with a lower powered scope or just iron sights. i have found in my personal experience that i would get worse groups witht he scope up high like that than when it was closer to the barrel. |
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Yeah I got rid of the see-thru on the 270 . A small punch and a tap or two was the ticket for the lock-tite. I still have a marlin with see thru that I will keep them on as I have several 336's. I really appreciate all the input from everybody, ya'll are a real sourse of good info. I'll be mounting my scope with a leo rail and mounts. Thanks again.
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The truth of the matter, the closer you keep your scope to the barrel,the better, the more accurate the gun will be,it is a matter of preference,kinda like which females are the best to look at,redheads or blonds,or brunets.It is your choice!!!!!!!!!
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