RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

Everyone has a personal load for each caliber they own. My father has taken over 20 bull elk with a 270 using 130gr bullets. It boils down the marksman behind the gun. As far as a 270 being legitimate I would say its more than adequate. If you can't shoot the rifle it won't matter if your using a 50 cal.

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

Trying to make the 270 into a 30-06 is like pounding a square peg into a round hole. The .270's advantages are a high velocity bullet with a high BC and SD, its like a 3 legged stool, you can increase the any one of the 3 factors and you end up out of balance. IMHO the 270 is a very well balanced cartridge to start with. If you want the extra muzzle energy and confidence, get a 30-06, if you want a nice flat shooting rifle that will do just about anything a 30-06 will do, then get the .270.

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

I haven't tried this bullet 180 gr. However my Barnes Manual shows it at 2762 fps. Its true though If you wanted to make a steady practice of shooting 180 grain bullets then the 30-06 would be a better choice . However the 180 in the 270 would have quite a bit higher sectioal density than the 30 caliber 180 grain bullet. 335 sd for the 270 bullet. 271 sd for the 30 cal bullet.

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

Hi James,

I'm being lazy......and not looking it up......but I suspect the 180 grain .277 bullet has a sectional density equal to....or greater than the 220 grain .308 caliber bullet. Which means it should penetrate as well or better than a bullet of similar construction. Which would also make it appropriate for nearly the same uses as one would apply a 220 grain bullet from a .30-06. (For those people that only have one rifle.....it being a .270.) Though you'd give up frontal area.

I know personally when the wife and I were looking for a .277 bullet that would give great penetration on heavy animals.....and still shoot reasonably flat.....we chose the 160 grain Nosler semi-spitzer Partition. It worked very well for us in all circumstances we used it in!

At any rate......it just provides more options for rifleman desiring to use a .270 of any stripe......on really heavy game! Making a really good cartridge....even better.

Dave

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

Barnes makes the 180-.277", as mentioned above. Speer USED to make a 170-grainer. Nosler makes a 160 Partition Jacket. The reason why the bullet weight selection is so small is because when other weights were made available, no-one bought them! That's why the 170 Speer was discontinued, for example. I did use some of them in Alaska - they were very accurate, and performed well - but no better than the Nosler Partition 150 and 160 grainers!!

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

ak, the SD of the 180-grain .270 bullet is .335..... (vs .331 for the .308" 220-grain.....)

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

180 gr 270 Win??? All I can picture in my mind is a great big Carcano with that LOOOOONG bouit sticking out of it. I know it has to be seated deep to clear the lands but that is what popped into my mind. I will never forget the 1st time I saw the 6.5 Carcano round. I was maybe 15 and even then I could not see how that bullet didn't tumble once it left the barrel. Wierd round.

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

Why not a 180 gr. bullet for a .270?
Cause Jack O'Conner shot 130's and 150's,and so that is why we all have to shoot 130gr,140's and 150's out of our 270's[8D]

RE: Why not 180 grain .270??
 

Thanks eldeguello! I guess that's about as close as it mathematically gets.......without being identical!

I remember seeing the 180 grain Barnes at one time. They are such a blunt profiled round nose....they are nearly flat on the end. Even though Barnes has a great reputation....and the other Barnes bullets I'd used always worked well we were certain the Nosler Partition would penetrate at least as well....and shoot flatter. Either way....good bullets!

Thanks again.

Dave

P.S. I was having a "lazy moment"!:)

Danny 45:
In all my years of hunting, I don't know how many elk I've taken with a .243 then I moved up to the .270 which I actually didn't see much difference. I enjoy hunting with either, but for a bit heaver and faster cartridge, the .270 does have more terminal velocity. With that said, regardless of caliber, it will always be about bullet placement. Have a quality scope and can shoot well; I wouldn't be afraid to shoot an Elk, Moose or even a Grizzly with a .270. They simply don't move once hit. So, I know you're asking where do you place the bullet? I seldom every make a body shot, but I'll always go for the neck just below the head. They never seem to know what hit em, it's just over and I seldom every shoot twice using the 130 grain.

Best of luck!