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XTP 02-06-2002 11:09 PM

BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
Do these bullets really perform as promised?? My concern is with the rather small opening.If the bullet was to strike a bone(leg or shoulder) at an angle,is it not possible the hollow point may close up instead of open? This would leave you with basically a FMJ entering the ribcage.I currently use Hornadys and don't really plan on switching,but I would like to hear from anyone who has used these rounds just in case...

Colo Wolf 02-07-2002 12:38 AM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
I have used bothin the field, and tested in wet newspaper before doing so. They work.

I used the fail safe in factory ammo, later I found out they had slower velocity than what I could build to, and that is an intentional thing on the part of the factory. It did the job on a good sized mule deer just fine. I later reloaded some to my velocity level, and found the factory was right in downloading a little.

The X bullet, is my favorite now. I worked them from a slower velocity to faster adn tested for expansion, found they held together no matter what. I like the mushroom, and the weight retention is there, and the petals donot shear. The bull I brought down didn't care for it much though, but he was over it pretty quick.

I do have one last observation though, and that is a good BTSP from any maker will usually do just as well, but it is fun to work with new stuff.

340WBYMAG 02-07-2002 05:14 AM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
Most of the guys we hunt Moose with all use FailSafe factory Ammo or Barnes-X Weatherby Ammo. I agree with Colo Wolf on the velocity issue, most of the tests show less then advertised velocity for the FailSafes, but the retained weight is definitly accurate. I have removed 300 and 338 caliber bullets that went right thru ribs on one side and lodged in a rib or skin on the other and the bullet is all there with the petals bent back.

Its one of our favorites.

halcon 02-07-2002 02:36 PM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
I tried the barnes x bullets in my 243win and they have all been very good on penetration and weight retention . Not the shock damage I was getting with btsp's .

LARRY338 02-07-2002 04:40 PM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
Ive shot a lot of deer with x bullets and in my opinion, they do what a bullet is supposed to do on game. They expand and penetrate on a straight line. The worst thing about them is since they changed the design in 1996, I cant get them to shoot worth a crap in most of my guns.

Colo Wolf 02-07-2002 05:00 PM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
Larry-

I assume you shoot 338.. what is your load and what kind of groups do you get? I am using a 338 and get 3/4 to 1" myself.... just wondering.

rossman 02-07-2002 05:14 PM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
When you guys talk about Barnes X bullets, do you mean the uncoated or coated (XLC)? Which do you prefer?? There is different loading specs between these 2 bullets. correct? Thanks!!

Colo Wolf 02-07-2002 10:29 PM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
Rossman-

NOt sure about the other guys, but I talk about the non-coated. I keep getting conflicting reports about moly coatings, hearing one side saying not much good adn others saying how great it is.

As to reloading, I think there are separate specs for the different bullets, should be. I make it a point to scour everything I can about loading a particular bullet before I ever start the process. That is a good habit to take up.

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340WBYMAG 02-08-2002 05:00 AM

RE: BarnesX / Failsafe Bullets??
 
On Norma's website there is a report/investigation into Moly coatings. It's actually interesting reading.

You can find it at www.Norma.cc


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